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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2112 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2112 ⌋

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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-14 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The obnoxious thing about Twilight is that it *did* have potential. There are about a million different angles at which it could have been brilliant vampire-fiction. Could have been a beautiful story about love and redemption and humanity. Could have been a horror story about Edward's inner (and outer) monster. Could have been a psychological horror story about Bella always charging towards what she knows is bad for her, and how she gets her thrills off of engaging what is bad for her. Could have been a fascinating Natural Born Killers-type story.

The Cullens even had potential as individual protagonists in their own stories. I'm still really interested in the Civil War guy and how he adapted over time, because 150 years has brought a lot of social change--how does a guy who grew up in the 1840s-1850s feel about that? I'm interested in how the Cullens came to be a family. How did they find each other? How did they bond with each other? Let's explore this, it'd be a fascinating statement on both loneliness and love!

Shit, can we hear more about the bad-guy vampires from Italy? I'd really like to know about them, too. How did this social structure form? What other laws and rules do they have?

But all that was squandered. Instead, the source material is reduced to being puddle-shallow and utterly, utterly bland, and I consider it a sad waste of really interesting concepts.

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. The whole time I was reading those books I kept thinking "Damn SMeyer, you've got some fascinating characters and ideas here! Why are you using them so terribly?"
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I know! So, so wasted. :( It's always sad when you can clearly see flickers of potential around the edges of a shitty, shitty work. If only there'd been more effort and care put into the world-building and the character arcs... *le sigh!*

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Could have been a psychological horror story about Bella always charging towards what she knows is bad for her, and how she gets her thrills off of engaging what is bad for her.

In a way I actually thought this was where the series was going circa New Moon (motorcycle, jumping off a cliff etc.) and that she'd eventually realize just how fucked up it all was.. but NOEP.

I agree that there was potential though. The Cullens' history, and the Volturi... I was really fascinated by them, but we didn't get any background/lore at all. That disappointed me a lot, lol.
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-15 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, someone could have rewritten New Moon with a fairly minimal amount of effort into a really horrifying and gripping novel. But nope!

Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
You certainly aren't wrong. It'd explain how I got so into the books after I started reading them (the only reason I picked them up was because of vampires; and this was before it was trendy).

And yes, I'd be mildly interested in the Volturi (your so-called "bad-guy vampires from Italy"). They did cover the backgrounds of the Cullens in the books though, did they not?
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Re: I used to think Twilight was brilliant

[personal profile] leikomgwtfbbq 2012-10-17 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't go into as much detail as I would have liked, though. I would have liked it more as a series of short stories that lead up to the formation of the Cullen family, with a focus on the emotions and issues they each have.