[ SECRET POST #2112 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2112 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Right, exactly. And from a character standpoint, they'd have to wrap up Stiles' feelings for Lydia to some extent before a big sexual identity crisis. (Actually, that would be really good timing. Stiles drags his eyes away from Lydia, and bam, he discovers that not only is the world filled with other girls, but also with other boys!) Point is, this would all take time and careful consideration of how it would fit into the show as a whole. If Davis even wants to. Personally, if I were a showrunner and I'd been mapping out character arcs for as long as Davis presumably has, I'd be reluctant to change my ideas at the insistence of my fanbase.

[(Anonymous)]

This would be the problem. It would take several episodes to make it believable and in-character, and there are far more important plot points to handle (not to mention rewriting Jackson's part now that Colton is leaving).

I wish that the most obsessed fans would remember that it is a TV show, not an interactive game where you can choose your own ending, if you are loud enough.

[(Anonymous)]

It would be kind of a huge deal -- and it could fit in with a more generalized Stiles character arc or overall season theme, like identity perhaps, becoming comfortable with yourself. But it would require a lot of attention, and it would have to be foreshadowed more bluntly than it already has. In short, they'd really have to commit to making Stiles bi. They'd have to really want to do it. And personally, I think they should, because the idea that Davis would intentionally put bisexuality hints in and then never provide the payoff feels a little icky to me. But I also understand why it could take a very long time, and I acknowledge that he may never have intended for those hints to ever have a payoff. And certainly, Stiles being bi does NOT automatically equal his being interested in Derek.

Idk man, it seems like the best policy when dealing with fandom is just to thank them, then ignore them. If you let on that you're malleable, you will be DEVOURED.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly! And honestly, exploring all the stuff that there's not time for/it doesn't make sense to go over in canon is what fanworks are for. There's nothing saying that you can't explore Stiles' sexuality in fic, even if it doesn't make sense for the writers to pay a great deal of attention to it in canon.

I think the thing that kills me the most about the fans that are way too in writers/creators' faces pushing for things is that they would be completely up in arms if someone left a comment on their fanfic/comic/art/whatever saying, "Well, this is nice and all, but I personally really love x, so you should change this picture/story/whatever to fit my preferences and disregard whatever your original plans were." I mean, it's great that some creators are willing to pay attention to fan feedback, but it's really entitled to think that the fact that they're willing to have a relationship with fandom means that fandom gets to call all the shots.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's a stretch to say there would never be time or it would never make sense to develop Stiles' bisexuality in canon, but it would certainly be a commitment and the writers would have to actively want to go there.

Haha, yeah, that kills me too. If someone suggested I change a short story to suit their personal desires (which is not the saying as offering objective critique), I'd be pissed as hell. And that's just a short story; I can't imagine how reluctant I would be to scramble my plans for a TV show, which is a longstanding creative and emotional investment that you have to be happy with in order to write.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh no, I don't think that there will never be time to explore Stiles' sexuality in canon. That was poor wording on my part. I just meant to say that if there's never a point where the writers have a chance to work it in, that people shouldn't assume that it's the end of the world. I am all for it making canon, since I'd like to see more positive portrayals of bisexuality in media in general, but like you said, it would be something they'd have to be committed to exploring, and if they're just doing it to please fans, they could easily muck it up.

A lot of people in fandom seem to have problems distinguishing between legitimate critique and being a pushy asshole about things. I can only imagine how frustrated Jeff Davis must be about being constantly bombarded with questions about Sterek. Although I have to admit, that is partially his own fault for opening that door, however unwittingly. They should have a class where they sit down writers/showrunners/other creators the second their stuff starts to get big and explain to them the proper way to approach fandom in the wild. It would save so much heartache in the long run.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh yeah, I agree. Shoehorning it in at the expense of character & story would not work. I want to see it done -- but I want to see it done right.

I feel kinda bad for Jeff Davis, because he has clearly had to learn very quickly that everything he says will touch off an explosive chain reaction somewhere in the depths of the internet. He should never have encouraged fandom to think he was receptive to their ideas. It's like feeding one stray cat who meanders onto your stoop; all of a sudden you're a crazy cat lady with twenty feline friends, six of whom are named Trixie. Davis should've taken pointers from Vince Gilligan. That dude doesn't even google the name of his own show.

[(Anonymous)]

Now I just want fanart of Jeff Davis as a cat lady.