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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-14 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2112 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
And, can we not do the whole thing that White people can experience racism because they really don't? Prejudice? Yes. Xenophobia? Yes. But not racism.

You confuse racism with institutional racism. Don't do that, it makes you look silly.

And stop confusing ethnocentrism/nationalism with racism. German or Polish is not a race, or is a really a ethnicity since both countries have many ethnicities, it's a nationality.

You do know that there were (and still are) people who consider slavs do be a different race, right? And I believe that there are some interesting articles on how the Irish became white, you should look them up, methinks.

And Polish and German and not ethnic groups, u wat now? Do you, by any chance, know what ethnic groups mean? You know, groups of people who live in a different country than their original homeland and share the same cultural/historical heritage among each other? Does that ring some bells?

And since you brought up nationalism, do you think that races-based hate is worse than hate based on nationality? I mean, some of my Hungarian mates could tell stories about their lives in Romania (and not fun ones) or stories about how people treat us in Germany or in the UK. Or oh, an even better one, ask a Polish about what their grandparents told them about life in German/Russia occupied Poland! I bet it was a blast! Or how they are still considered to be unclean and barbaric in the UK. And one of my friends swore there was a sign in London which said "Romanians, don't steal the swans".

If you don't want to use POC, fine. But I will continue to use it when I am talking when talking about race domestically and internationally

> people tell you they are uncomfortable when you call them POCs
> keeps them calling the POCs because fuck yeah America

Really now. And the funny thing is, that if I try to translate POC into my language, it means the same as colored person, so yeah, the magics of international spaces.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a good comment, but I have to say my mind immediately fixed on "don't steal the swans". WTF is the context for telling anyone not to steal the swans? Swans seem like they'd be pretty hard to steal.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-15 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Some context:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/855857/Swans-by-the-River-Lea-in-East-London-are-apparently-eaten-by-East-European-immigrants-Swan-carcasses-have-been-found.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1261044/Slaughter-swans-As-carcasses-pile-crude-camps-built-river-banks-residents-frightened-visit-park-Peterborough.html

Pretty hard to steal maybe, but not too hard to catch and eat! Though maybe my friend's memory played a trick on her, and the sign indeed said "do not eat the swans" instead of "do not steal the swans".

(and nope, it is not acceptable in EE to slaughter animals which don't belong to you)