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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-17 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2115 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2115 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Elementary]


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[To Aru Majutsu no Index]


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[Ghostbusters 2]


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[One Piece]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Big Time Rush]


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[Sherlock]


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[Pitch Perfect]


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[Blue Exorcist & Supernatural]


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[Homestuck]


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[Rose Byrne]


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[khaos komix]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[The White Buffalo]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[Dawn of the Dead]


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[CSI: Miami]


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(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
You realize the quadrants are just names for things we have anyways right?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
not really? at the very least, when I've tried to read up on them on the wiki and understand them, (to understand people defining ships in my fandom that way) I don't really go to myself "wow, that sounds just like my relationship with XYZ." To me I just go "Wow, that sounds really alien."

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe its a poly thing then?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
could be. I know I'm DEFINITELY not poly at all, so it could just be an inability to understand relationships of that sort.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-18 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's not really a 'poly thing'. The closest parallels, iirc, for the various quadrents are something along the lines of Romantic relationship, Arch rival/hatesex, Best friends, and kind of a threeway negotiation set up. None of which is really something that's really like being poly.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-18 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
except moirallegiance is not "best friends," it's platonic soulmates who stabilize each other emotionally

and auspisticism is a hatesex-cockblock

still not a 'poly thing' but
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-10-17 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And that was kinda the point. They are aliens with alien thoughts and alien functions. Close enough to be uncanny valley but not completely equivalent.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT: That's what I assumed when I first found out about it. I always thought that the trolls were supposed to come across as being very, very different culturally than humans, so...when I see people defining human character's relationships by the quadrants, or in particular their own relationships, it comes across as really weird to me.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-17 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I find your perspective intriguing, because to me, the fact that troll romance is so "alien" piques my interest. Part of the reason I enjoy fantasy and science fiction is because I love reading about cultures that are vastly (and sometimes incomprehensibly) different from my own. If the culture approves of some behavior or desire that I would never myself countenance, then it's doubly fascinating. I want to learn all about the whys and hows, and about the feelings and thought patterns of those who engage in said behaviors or harbor said desires.

So, given my disposition, the fact that someone would be turned off by that which is alien is of great interest to me. I would like to know more about your feelings, if you are so inclined as to tell me, and if I haven't succeeded in creeping you out (which I acknowledge is a risk).

(Anonymous) 2012-10-18 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
nah, you didn't creep me out. In fact, I also enjoy exploring fictional worlds that are very different from my own? So it's not that I'm turned off by it alien. I'm turned off by people taking something that seems to be intended to be odd, alien, and inhuman, and then trying to fit real, living human relationship into those boxes.

Similarly, I find people who declare "Jedi" as their religion odd, too. I enjoy roleplaying a Jedi, or playing a video game set in that universe or something like that, but I'd have a hard time trying to apply the teachings of the Jedi to my real life because it assumes things that don't actually exist in our world. (Midichlorians don't give you psychic powers IRL, for example. I can't predict the future, move objects with my mind, jump a house, call out to someone telepathically, etc.)

tl;dr: I'm not turned off by the portrayal of an alien culture, I'm turned off by people taking something that [I assumed was] meant to be taken as fiction, and then insisting it's something that actually exists in the real world.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-10-17 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's really not. It's concepts close enough to understand, but how many time's have you legitimately wanted a sexual relationship with somebody you honestly hated? Or pitied?
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[personal profile] kijikun 2012-10-17 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
They might be more focused on the matespirt and moiral part which seems to be a tendency in the fandom. Though I will admit wanting to have hate sex with at least one person in the course of my life so far.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-10-17 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Hate sex? yes. But a relationship? Not so much. Maybe you were sublimating something else into hate, but if it's legit hate, humans don't have those feelings.