case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-18 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2116 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2116 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.
[Deacon Frost, Blade]


__________________________________________________



07.
[Legend of Korra]


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.
[Luke Wilson]


__________________________________________________



10.


__________________________________________________



11.
[Transformers: Shattered Glass]


__________________________________________________



12.


__________________________________________________



13.
[marvel comics]


__________________________________________________



14.
[Pan's Labyrinth]


__________________________________________________



15.


__________________________________________________



16.
[The Walking Dead]


__________________________________________________



17.
[Jackass]


__________________________________________________



18.


__________________________________________________



19.
[Avengers]


__________________________________________________



20.


__________________________________________________














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 020 secrets from Secret Submission Post #302.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
dazzledfirestar: (Default)

[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2012-10-20 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're insensitive. I think you're grossly misinformed. You weren't even aware of which canon you were talking about. That alone makes your opinion on the subject questionable.

But go ahead. Write off a character for one panel from 31 years ago. While you're at it, you may want to write off Reed Richards for smacking Susan while she was brainwashed or putting his own son in a coma because he couldn't control his powers. Or Clint Barton for siding with his wife's rapist when she let him fall off a cliff. Or Peter Parker for selling his marriage against his wife's and his aunt's wishes so May could live a few more years. Or any of the other horrible things all these characters with any kind of history behind them have done.

I should point out that none of these characters have paid for their crimes in the way Hank Pym has. No jail time, no apologies (at least not for a full fifteen years in Clint's case), no acknowledgement that they've done wrong. Whereas Hank as done everything in his power to atone for his crime. He started a charity that helps women in the situation he put his wife in. He headed a school for kids with powers that were abused under Norman Osborn's HAMMER rule. Janet herself forgave him, at least enough to try and reconcile after Avengers: Disassembled.

So yeah, insensitive, no. Misinformed and unwilling to admit it? Yeah. I'd say that label fits.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-20 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Actually, I was sure about which canon, I merely mentioned that I also held a lot against Ultimates Hank, but w/e.

And actually, I have written off those characters, mostly for those reasons. So, you know, whatever.

I think it's good that Hank tried to atone for the shit he did. I don't think it makes him an amazing person who is suddenly not guilty of that shit. And I don't think Billy's done anything to deserve being compared to someone who has done that kind of shit. Oh my god. Call the press.
dazzledfirestar: (Default)

[personal profile] dazzledfirestar 2012-10-21 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ultimate Hank isn't 616 Hank. Or Movie Hank (if and when he shows up). Different canons means different characterization.

Nobody is saying he's righteous citizen number one here. Only that he's put far more effort into making up for his wrongs than most characters bother with. He's still guilty of those things, and he'd be the first person to tell you that. But there's genuine remorse there whether you like it or not.

No. Billy's an innocent little angel that got two of his teammates killed because he couldn't leave well enough alone and never listens to anyone who thinks that maybe he's not thinking things through. My mistake. :|