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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-19 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2117 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2117 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Slenderman/Cthulu]


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07. http://i.imgur.com/AAVIZ.jpg
[Bo Sinclair / House of Wax (2005); image contains possibly-triggery scars, no self-harm stuff in the text though]


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[Wil Wheaton]


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[Guardians of the Galaxy]


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[The King of Fighters: KYO manga and game]


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14. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Voyager: The Eternal Tide]



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15. [SPOILERS for Damages]



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16. [SPOILERS for Frankenweenie]



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17. [SPOILERS for Big Brother 14]



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18. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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19. [WARNING for suicide]

[The Walking Dead]


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20. [WARNING for incest]

[A Night at the Roxbury]


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21. [WARNING for child abuse]



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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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ill_omened: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-20 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah that's pretty much bullshit.

If the choice is between literally saving lives, and improving the knowledge of man kind

or

I want my body to rot in a ditch because my feels

Then yes, you have every right to judge their decision, because it has obvious effects on those around them. Their is not right to not be free of judgement, and for people to call you out on the effect your choices will have.
tasogare_n_hime: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2012-10-20 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't give a shit about being judged. I give a shit about someone trying to force another human being to live by their moral standards.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-20 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Too bad.

Everyone is doing it right now. Like what precisely do you think laws are? Or the social contract?
tasogare_n_hime: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2012-10-20 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously?

You know you remind me of the people who want to make my reproductive organs government property. You think you moral views trump everyone else's regardless of mental state, religious beliefs, or personal beliefs, and that is fucking bull shit.

I'd love it if everyone who was able opted to be an organ donor, but not everyone is going to. If someone decided not to I may think they're an ass depending on why, but if it ever comes up I will fight to the death to make sure they keep the ability to make that choice.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-20 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yes.

I mean I hold the beliefs I hold because I think they're right. If I didn't, I wouldn't hold them. Thanks for pointing out this trivially true fact.

And I'm sorry, but is the idea that we legislate morality really that complicated? I guarantee you do it yourself it'd be absurd not to. Hell I would imagine you do the same with bodily autonomy as well, unless you're fine with us not stopping the mentally ill from committing acts of self harm, or more simply - you don't let people do anything they want with their corpse in the first place. I mean if I put in my will that I want my body stuffed and put on the pavement, would you defend that because ~omg nothing gives you the right to violate bodily autonomy. Hell, there's even very specific criteria in dealing with a corpse and the destruction thereof, do you oppose that?

I haven't even suggested doing that yet anyway, just that you're a fucking asshole if you don't, and deserve to be called out on it.

(though I was going to to be frank)

I think you should seriously ask yourself why you would be so willing to defend their choice in this area. The downsides are tremendously obvious. People will die who could have been saved, alongside a host of quality of life medical operations, and scientific benefits gained. Weighed against this is the self evidently ridiculous idea that your corpse has any value outside the sentimental. In which case I suggest we make you go to every person who could have been saved, or their families, and tell them that they could have lived - but you held it as sacrosanct that a person who doesn't exist anymore found the idea of being cut up instead of buried to rot and be eaten by the worms, or burnt like industrial garbage to be gross.
tasogare_n_hime: (Default)

Re: Famous Wanks You've Participated In

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2012-10-20 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would I defend that choice? Because I honestly believe it wouldn't stop there. There are people out there who think I regardless of the situation, or my feelings on it, if I end up pregnant I have to carry that pregnancy to term, and give birth to that baby no matter what it does to me. There patents on human genes, and there have been law suits over them, and the patents have been upheld by the feral government. There are too many ways someone could find to make a profit off forcing others to donate organs, it may be prevented now, but someone with enough money can make that vanish. When you make a profit off the organs of the dead it's in your best interest to make sure a majority of people have organs optimal for donating. Will that be because health care is optimized for everyone to get what they need to stay healthy? I seriously doubt it, because unless you can take choices away from people even the best health care isn't going stop them from doing something that might cut into your profits.

It may sound stupid to you, but that's the only way I can see something like that turning out especially here in the US where profit rules over everything else.