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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-08-12 06:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #219 ]


⌈ Secret Post #219 ⌋

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Re: Horrors! The 7 poster!

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-08-13 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Then overall, we're at least not warring. Sorry if I seemed condescending, I honestly didn't mean to come off that way. Eugh. This is actually an area of study that I am pursuing.

Yeah, pedophilia in general is just pretty much underresearched, not 'unclear'. Mostly because people in the US don't want to dedicate money to the research because of the taboo subjects, and they will discard any studies coming from Scandanavian countries that have loose age of consent laws.

But no matter how contrived it is, once again we're brought up with the comparision of violence. A violent video game will give someone the idea to act out violence as much as a fanfic or piece of fanart will, I presume, but violence and sex, and all of the deviant acts that come with both, have existed long before free press or media.

It is a case by case situation, but the law doesn't treat it as so. People see teenagers, usually, as complete bumbling idiots in the realm of sexuality, that make 'mistakes'. However, if a teenager sleeps with an adult, it's never a consentual decision or a 'mistake', it's always rape by law. Which is a bit insulting to the actual cases of real rape, and it's why people become doubtful and rape victims get so much shit usually. Because the word is thrown around in subjects that make people with their own conventional 'wisdom' go "yeah right".


Some people are mature at fourteen.
Granted. However, maturity is also a tricky word. Are we talking about IQ, experience, ability to reason, etc.? By that logic there are many immature adults. In any case, maturity should not be the deciding factor in whether or not someone should get locked up for having sex with someone. Yes, a guy who has sex with a bubbly immature 15 year old girl who is, say, 25, would be a creep by my standards. However, I don't think she's incapable of consent, because the charming captain of a football team, or hell, even her friends, can pressure her and rush her into a decision to go into sex just as much as an older man should, and therefore he shouldn't be charged with rape, only by my standards. Because immaturity is an abstract concept. If she has the endorphins necessary to feel romantic bliss, the hormones, and the cognitive ability to make mature decisions, then I call it consent. Not a wise decision, but consent.

I understand why such laws exist and what they exist to protect for.

Prepubescent is often different, and studies of very young child sexuality show this. A young child, when sexual, does it to explore physical sensations rather than actually having a goal or an emotional motive. Manipulation is very easy in this case.

However, any sexual relationship where there is a wide gap in power (say a fourteen year old having sex with an older person who has some authority) then it is likely to be at least somewhat unhealthy. This also refers to power gaps that aren't caused by age, too.

I like that you added that last thing at the end. This is to assume that there aren't any valid feelings between the teacher and the student (or just the person in power/authority). Which probably, in most cases, it's nothing past infatuation or something sexual. I am sure there are exceptions in a case by case scenario, but in general it's most likely to be unhealthy.

My personal feelings are that teenagers rush into things sexually (and it's natural for them) too often. Just because they do it and it leads to mistakes, I don't think it's wrong or should get so many people thrown in jail. It's such a complicated subject, a taboo one, and sometimes a very squicky and uneasy subject, as there are too many adults that do act unprofessional all for a fleeting infatuation (with a teenager or an adult, really).

And teenagers can manipulate each other just as easily.

Oh, and to be back to the original topic, LJ has a right to act as douchey and unprofessional as they want, like I said. They are a private blog, not a government, so that makes sense there, even if I disagree with the deletions, I won't go saying how completely horrific they are and post WWII poems D: