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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-22 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2120 ]


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ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-22 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean uniquely American terms? I suppose I could have used bastard or wanker, except they'd lack the specific vitriol I was going for.

Not particularly interested in a debate about linguistics and regional meanings of language, so I'm sorry you're offended, and I won't use it again in this thread.

p.s. I'm genuinely interested why you chose to repeat the slur with a single star on one of the letters. What purpose do you actually think this serves? Like I don't think anyone here is mistaken as to what word you're using there. And the harm isn't I don't think in it's literal physical construct as a word, but in the meaning imbued. Either use it or don't.

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-22 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But you didn't have to go for something specifically targeted towards women. Jfc.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't the intent.

Because, shockingly, it isn't where I'm from.

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting! Where are you from?
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-23 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
UK.

(though the same is true for a number of ex-colonies, see also Australia)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
You're right, that is shocking!

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
That explains everything. Everything.
kathkin: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] kathkin 2012-10-23 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Here' in Britain 'cunt' is usually a gender-neutral insult. I'd say neutral leaning towards masculine.

A lot of people here are still very offended by it but it is used differently then in the US.

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, wiki does say something to that effect. I can buy that, but I also think you'd have to live under a rock to never have come across the other meaning, and not think that saying it wouldn't cause trouble. And I was genuinely curious as to where i_o is from since I've never seen them mention it although I knew they weren't from the US.
kathkin: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] kathkin 2012-10-23 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Tbph I find differences like this kind of fascinating and I'm kind of curious as to how the difference usages evolved.

And that's all I'm going to say because in my experience the British usage vs American usage debate doesn't end well. xD

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's fine. I think it's really fascinating as well.

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Cunt (play /ˈkʌnt/) is a word that primarily describes the female genitalia, particularly the vulva, and is widely considered to be vulgar.[

Pull the other one, ass, it has bells on it.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
"Cunt is also used as a derogatory epithet referring to people of either sex. This usage is relatively recent, dating from the late nineteenth century.[3] Reflecting different national usages, cunt is described as "an unpleasant or stupid person" in the Compact Oxford English Dictionary, whereas Merriam-Webster has a usage of the term as "usually disparaging and obscene: woman",[4] noting that it is used in the U.S. as "an offensive way to refer to a woman";[5] the Macquarie Dictionary of Australian English states that it is "a despicable man", however when used with a positive qualifier (good, funny, clever, etc.) in Britain, New Zealand and Australia, it can convey a positive sense of the object or person referred to.[6]

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This is particularly true in America, where the word is solely used referring to women or sometimes even a rather feminine man, while in the UK and Ireland, the word is an insult which can be used for anyone, much akin to calling someone a bastard or wanker."

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-22 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You are a fucking bastard. A wanker. A douche bag. A horrible terrible person. Everything I see from you is terrible. Go the fuck away and be a horrible representation of the gender somewhere else.

LOOK! I insulted you without using an gendered slur words!
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-22 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
How is douchebag not gendered?

And all those others words have clear problematic roots if we're going down that path.

I mean surely you're aware of the etymological background of say bastard right?
greenvelvetcake: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2012-10-23 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought "wank/wanker" had a specifically male connotation to it.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-23 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.
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Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] stainless 2012-10-23 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, so did I. I don't think I've ever called a woman a "wanker" unless I meant "person involved in some fandom wank."

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Because bag that douche came in doesn't have a gender?

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of astonished at how much I dislike you sometimes. Do you ever get tired of beating all these dead horses?
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-10-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
No.

Do you ever tire of sniping anonymously from the sidelines rather then addressing my actual points?

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, it's my first time sniping at you! Don't go pointing fingers--there's more than one anon in this thread.

And I don't care about your points, I just get really sick of reading your opinions all the time. You're a prickly son of a bitch, with all the charm and warmth of a block of ice.

Re: James Bond and Entitlement

(Anonymous) 2012-10-23 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Sure don't. :) I've been here for years, and you're the only one who has consistently pissed me off while having no redeeming qualities. I hate you quite happily.