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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-22 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2120 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2120 ⌋

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[personal profile] stainless 2012-10-23 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
This sort of thing was why my mind went to disability rather than to gayness when I watched the movie. Because there really ARE two (well, that's oversimplified horrendously, but) camps within the disability community -- people who see their disabilities as something undesirable and limiting and want them as gone as possible, and people who see their disabilities as part of who they are and see society as the thing that's really disabling.

I loved the third, was it? think so movie for that, because I thought it was about us (people with disabilities.) And that was something I'd never seen before -- not like that, not showing both the people who want cures and the people who subscribe to the social model BOTH as sympathetic. I cried in the theater lobby for twenty minutes, I was so awed by the idea that someone would write about that.

I got home from the theater and found everyone hated it and thought it was complete shit, and that they'd meant the metaphor to be gayness so it was creepy because of what a cure for gayness means.

That was a... surreal experience.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2012-10-23 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
As far as I know, most folks hated that movie because it was an absolute cluster that tried to tackle about three storylines, any one of which could have held a movie on its own, and did none of them well. (I also hated that the Acolytes basically looked like Matrix renegades rather than actual X-mutants). It was kind of a mess.

But if that part of the story really touched you, more power to you. It was definitely an interesting take and the sort of thing that X-men was made to write about, really. I would have liked it better if there'd been less "you're a bad person for wanting this, Rogue."

The whole mutation=gay thing probably has more to do with the fact that the previous two movies, the second one especially, emphasized the correlation between the two ("have you tried...not being a mutant?"), which makes it hard to shake for the third.

Everyone's got their buttons that an unexpected movie can press. Honestly, there's a scene in Over The Hedge that makes me all quiet and a little choked. And that was supposed to be stupid. X3 was trying for something epic and moving; glad that it worked for you.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2012-10-23 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
That makes a lot of sense, the X-Men are a MUCH better metaphor for disabilities than for homosexuality or race. I don't know why people keep pushing the latter, the X-Men aren't only superficially challenged, it's not about a girl with just blue skin or a girl who's sexually attracted to girls with blue skin, it's about a girl with blue skin who can shapeshift into any person she meets and her blind girlfriend who can see into the future. There are physical and mental issues going on most of the time, but no, we have to beat the Martin Luther King, Jr. vs. Malcolm X horse as long as we can.

(Anonymous) 2012-10-24 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I kind of identify with Rogue in X3, with my autism being a huge roadblock to getting my life where I want it, and a large segment of the online autistic community is proud to be autistic and rabidly against a cure. I mean, hey, great for them that they're proud, but who are they to say that none of us should get to decide for ourselves? I mean, realistically I think the chances of there being a cure are slim to none, but it's the principle of the thing.