[ SECRET POST #2120 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2120 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, when Americans think or talk about Europe they really usually mean only Western Europe (in the sense of pre-Iron-fall-Europe) and the same is to some extent true about some people who live in many parts of Western Europe (it's been changing in the last two decades, mostly because of EU opening to the East, which sort of brought many countries of the Eastern Europe back to Europeans mental maps of their own continent).

Still quite often you get this feeling that when somebody says Europe and European they really think of parts of it, not the whole.

I do understand it in a way, but sometimes it's a bit dismissive, especially when it is deliberate. I didn't often hear an outright "it doesn't concern you" (like the anon who made this secret), but there's often this implication in the discussions that "my" part of Europe is not "the real" Europe, which I do find annoying.

(But is also sometimes almost subconscious and definitely a result of geopolitics and sheer unfamiliarity with the cultures of these countries)

[(Anonymous)]

This...is not true. Americans are quite familiar with the various parts of Europe since most of us are of European descent and the entire Cold War was centered around Russia. Your average American has heard of Ukraine, Bulgaria, and Hungary, I promise you. It's the Baltic states and the Balkans (except for Greece) that most people are unfamiliar with, since they're small countries, have had little immigration to the US, and have been relatively insignificant in terms of world history.

Americans are well aware of the difference between Western and Eastern Europeans, they just tend to not know much about the smaller and poorer countries in Europe.

[(Anonymous)]

Which is what I meant? Not that they don't know that these countries exist, but that they usually don't think of them when they say "Europe", and tend to focus on the Western parts.

[(Anonymous)]

On the side I would like to note though, that I do think that there is a tendency to overestimate the importance of having ancestors who come from particular country as an indication that this person is really familiar with the contemporary version of that country. It might be true in some rare cases, but it's definitely not true for everybody.