[ SECRET POST #2122 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2122 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

11. http://i49.tinypic.com/2rr6q3c.png

[(Anonymous)]

Well, clearly, it's a sign of his special independence and authority in hunting down Jews. He has a unique role in the German military structure, ergo can be called either title.

Bang. Sorted.

[(Anonymous)]

here I sit in tears of laughter at the unexpected use of 'bang. sorted.'

ol' lyle loves fandomsecrets. you got me? bang.

[visp]

You're quibbling about historical accuracy in Inglorious Basterds? Yeah... we're going to need a long list.

[(Anonymous)]

My history teacher tells me Hitler didn't explode in a movie theater. Why is this?

[visp]

Quentin lied to us. He lied. Also, you can't carryon a samurai sword on an airplane.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's physically possible.

[(Anonymous)]

They're quibbling about one specific historical inaccuracy in the movie. It is possible to handwave all the rest but have one ridic thing stand out as bothersome.

[(Anonymous)]

...I'm not quibbling, it just seemed like a...I guess I kind of figured if Tarantino did it, he had a reason.

[visp]

*shrug* He thought it sounded cool.

[(Anonymous)]

Because Oberst has been used in several American movies, so they were trying to indicate his rank? I have no fucking idea. German Wikipedia is no help, either.

[(Anonymous)]

I read once (but I'm not sure if this is actually true) that the usual old military ranks, like Oberst, were sometimes even used for SS officers (inofficially), first of all because they're usually shorter (Standartenführer, Sturmbannführer, Gruppenführer, they're all very long) and second because civilians were usually far more familiar with the normal military ranks that had been around since long before the Nazis than with the new SS ranks. So from what I understood it wouldn't make much sense for anyone from the military, the SS or the government to call Landa 'Oberst', but a civilian might remember 'Oberst' more easily than 'Standartenführer' and stick to that.

Again, this is just something I remember reading somewhere, I don't know if it's really true.

[(Anonymous)]

That first part sounds like a non-German hypothesis, honestly. Those titles have between four and five syllables, which isn't difficult for a German (where selbstverständlich- four syllables- is a word tossed around in everyday speech) speaker.

It is very possible that a civilian would use an older military term.

[ariakas]

I had no idea. Huh. The things you learn on f!s.

[ziltoidianrapture]

Can I just drop by and say that I'm loving all the Tarantino secrets this comm has been getting lately? They make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, especially since all the TW secrets fly way over my head.

[(Anonymous)]

Just came here to say that there is no "Führers" in the German language since the plural is "Führer" as well.

...yes, I'm that much of a grammar nazi (bad pun intended).

[(Anonymous)]

So I looked it up for you.. I found a german page that explains it. My english isn't so well, so I hope you understand what I want to say.

So 'Oberst' ist the general (main-) rank. 'SS-Standartenführer' is just a specialisation of that rank. A 'Captain at sea' i.e. is an 'Oberst' too.
Does that make any sense to you? :) I hope so.

that's the page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS-Ranggef%C3%BCge

It's a table/chart of all the ranks, it's in german though, but maybe you can still understand it.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but thanks :)

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! :) That's fascinating, maybe that site says why they did that. My German's not great, but I'll poke around there...