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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-10-24 06:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2122 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2122 ⌋

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Re: So, tough week or so for Republicans, eh?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-25 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with your positions but I can totally see how someone could get that from the comment above- that was actually how I read it the first time around, and I probably would have gone off snarking at them if I hadn't had the foresight to read the rest of the thread first.

Basically, the hiccup is whether you're reading "body parts you physically possess" individually (no policing other people's parts) or categorically (stay out of the discussion if you're not a stakeholder).

Re: So, tough week or so for Republicans, eh?

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2012-10-25 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Again, little off tonight but... I don't know anyone who would claim they "physically posses" their child's foreskin.

And the second comment explicitly says "bodily autonomy". Which, unless I'm missing something, doesn't cover someone else's foreskin. I'm failing to see how bodily autonomy for an infant means the father can make a decision about circumcision but the mother can't. And the stakeholder thing doesn't adequately explain to me how a father would have more of a stake in circumcising a child than the mother.

Re: So, tough week or so for Republicans, eh?

(Anonymous) 2012-10-25 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Individual: Body parts you (personally) physically possess

Categorical: Body parts (of the kinds) you physically possess


The former is about autonomy, the latter is loosely along the lines of 'only (people with uteruses) have a place in the abortion debate' (which may fall short of autonomy but IS something I've heard more than once from people who are ID as pro-choice, so.)

Under the latter rhetoric, men/people with penises are the stakeholders in the circumcision debate as they'd be the ones who have (or had) foreskins and can speak from personal experience.