[ SECRET POST #2122 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2122 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: COMPLETELY SERIOUS QUESTIONS

[(Anonymous)]

If the show brushes that kind of violence away as consequence-free, then I find it hard to take it seriously when Derek crowds someone against a wall.

This is one of the biggest problems with the show and fandom, that fans will explain away Derek's actions as abusive or controlling, then turn around and fetishize it in fiction so him 'barely' hurting Stiles is an act of twu wuv. Rape becomes fetishized in Sterek, along with dubcon and knotting and physical violence. It's all okay if it's love, right? I am so fearful for TW fandom, mostly because it's made of impressionable kids who think this crap is how love works. Sadly, it's obvious from the fiction that a lot of it is written by kids who have never had sex, but are already thinking this is what's hot. I guess we can all thank Twilight for manufacturing so many Bellas, and making our everything about the big, strong men who own, dominate, and control us. Thanks, Twilight.

Re: COMPLETELY SERIOUS QUESTIONS

[(Anonymous)]

Sadly, romanticizing of rape and domestic violence isn't really something that's exclusive to Teen Wolf fandom or even younger fans. I actually personally have no problem with kinks dealing with power and control and violence, and I even enjoy fic involving some of them on occasion. But the fact that large parts of fandom (as in all fandoms in general) don't want to take the time to stop and recognize that, while it's okay to write about and even enjoy taboo and/or problematic subjects in fiction and to have kinks that involve things like non-con, there at least needs to be a bit of recognition that those things are not romantic or the equivalent of love or something that you actually want to be a part of your relationships in real life (outside of consensual role play with clearly established rules and boundaries, of course). There are a lot of people (and they're not all young) who read those things and, after seeing them over and over and over, internalize them. It happens outside of fandom and in media in general, too, which is part of the reason why things like rape culture and slut shaming and victim blaming are so pervasive. So, the subjects themselves aren't what's so bad, but it's the trying to pass them off or down play them as signs of "true love", like you said. (Sorry, that was basically just a long-ass way for me to pretty much agree with you. I just have a lot of feelings on the matter.)

As an aside, as much as I dislike Twilight and think it's chock full of terrible messages and problematic elements, I don't think that you can set the blame for the emphasis in a lot of media and fiction on women wanting men who are big and strong to dominate and control them squarely on the shoulders of Bella and Edward. The series definitely contributed to some of the recent fervor around supernaturally-themed love stories and further romanticized the idea of the controlling, stalkery love interest, but those basic ideas and tropes have existed for a really, really long time, and have been a pretty pervasive part of Western culture and literature for centuries, if not longer. Twilight definitely hasn't done anyone any favors in that area, but it's not the sole source of the problem, either.