[ SECRET POST #2125 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2125 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 124 secrets from Secret Submission Post #304.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat x 4 and counting. Bets? ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[velvet_mace]

Oh god -- You know, I'm pretty tough but I won't go near the ONTD comms. Those places are the absolute rank arm-pit of Fandom, and I say this as someone who used to hang out in Fandom Wank. There are so many better places to hang out on the internet.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Hi5-a former Fandom Wank-er! I once made a really great fandom friend when we both made f_w and followed the thread to the comm... Those were strange and magical days.

But yeah, ONTD is terrifying, but Omona is pretty much the least-scary place in English language K-Pop fandom. God, that is a fucked up thing to say, but it's true. AllKpop and tumblr are... Infinitely worse.

wtb sane English language Korean-entertainment fandom. But haha, that is never going to happen.

Re: SA

[velvet_mace]

Everything I have ever heard about the K-pop fandom has made me run away in fear. From the absolute shit way the stars are treated by their fans (is it true one of them was hit with a brick in the head by a fan?), to the way they are treated like utterly disposable product by their management, it just makes me cringe. I didn't realize that the English speaking fandom was awful as well. If ONTD is considered the sanest place... that's a really, really bad sign.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

The artists have some pretty quality nutjob fans, it's true, and the culture of fannishness in South Korea itself is kind of baffling verging on terrifying, but they're actually treated pretty well when it comes to the kinds of musicians they are- All of them are encouraged to get degrees that will be helpful to them when they're no longer famous for dancing and singing, which are paid for by their record labels, and SM, the biggest of the idol labels, just issued stock options to most of their artists that have been with the company for more than a year.

It's also worth noting that the training process for idols, which regularly goes on for years before a band/artist debuts (if they do debut) is structured like certain kinds of lawsuits in the US- The company only charges for the months/years of intensive lessons and sometimes room and board, if an artist actually debuts. It essentially counts as part of the advance for their first promotion, but if the would-be idol doesn't debut, the company eats all of the cost.

One of the really interesting things about the Korean music industry, and one of the reasons that I've stuck around despite the rabid batshittery of most of fandom, is that there are a lot of very talented idols who are involved in the back end (lyrics/composition/styling/promotion) at a really young age, and you don't see that very often in pop music.

Also I'm a sucker for rap music that isn't immersed in all of the problematic authenticity-obsessed bullshit that is endemic to the US, and I think Korean's a really pleasing language for singing/rapping in. But yeah, the fandom is n-u-t-s.

Re: SA

[(Anonymous)]

Omona and Arama are cesspools, honestly. I followed both communities for a hot minute before I realized that it just wasn't worth the headache. Although it is occasionally fun to go check out the bigger wankfests, if only because it makes me feel completely sane by comparison.