[ SECRET POSTS #2128 & 2129 ]

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⌈ Secret Posts #2128 & 2129 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Time Lincoln]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Repo the Genetic Opera]


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[The Avengers]


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[Homestuck/Touhou]


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[ElfQuest/Wendy Pini]


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[Reservoir Dogs + HBO's Oz]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Covert Affairs]


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[Ouran Host Club]


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[Jae Joong from DBSK and JYJ]


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[Elementary]


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[The Girls Next Door]


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[Steven Moffat]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Alan Cumming/Son of the Mask]


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[The New Normal]


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[Mass Effect]


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[Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle/xxxHolic]


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[Resident Evil 6]


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[Revenge/The Social Network]


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[Cardcaptor Sakura]


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[Glee]


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[Khimeros]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Gregory House/Lady Gaga]


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[Glee]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Madonna "Die Another Day" MV, BEG "Sixth Sense" MV]


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[Doctor Who]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 046 secrets from Secret Submission Post #304.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Read the original Arthur Conan Doyle Canon. The plasticky gimmicky BBC Sherlock will never look the same again, trust me.
My god, do you actually believe Arthur Conan Doyle is a literary great?

I admire what he did for the crime genre, I admire that he was able to create such an iconic figure in Holmes, but a "great writer" he is not. I wouldn't even call him a good writer.

[dirac]

+1

way to lose credibility

[(Anonymous)]

do you actually think moffat's sherlock is better? at least the original had a psychologically consistent main character. the same can in no way be said for bbc sherlock's titular character, who is all over the map without regard for psychology or sense. (nayrt and i dont think acd is a masterpiece but i think bbc's sherlock is worse. certain elements of the show work, but the psychological bits - sherlock's actions and the motivations of the criminal - are so absolutely nonsensical and inconsistent and inadequate that the show barely qualifies as a classic detective story, which rely primarily on psychology

[dirac]

Anon, I never compared the two.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, and ia the comment you are responding to is pretentious as hell

but while i dont consider arthur conan doyle a literary great, i consider the original sherlock holmes (and several television adaptations) to be substantially better than the BBC version, so i think that was one of the few relevant (though obvious and probably unnecessary) recommendations

acd's sherlock is so much better than moffat's, i'm not even sure it's arguable. the original is realistic, it matches real people, real psychological profiles. moffat's sherlock, like many of his characters, is just a set of stereotypes and supposedly desirable "antisocial intellectual television badass" traits thrown haphazardly together IMO. it's way too inconsistent. that by default makes the original stories much better than the television series to me

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I think it's worthwhile reading the original books, yeah, but I don't think reading them will automatically make people love them or see their superiority to Moffat et al's adaptation. Such things come down to taste and opinion. Personally, my opinion is the reverse of yours: neither of them are "greats", but I like Sherlock way more than I like Conan Doyle. It's very subjective and, yes, it is arguable because when it comes down to it, it's my likes and dislikes against your likes and dislikes.

I find it strange, though, that your argument is based on Sherlock being inconsistent when Conan Doyle famously couldn't remember Watson's first name or the location of his war wound.

[(Anonymous)]

eh, fair enough, not that youll necessarily agree but i was talking about the titular character, not the overall plots. thats why i spoke of psychology. i think moffat writes good plots, i think his psychology/understanding of people is whats lacking. sherlock bbc may have more consistent plots than conan doyle. i dont doubt it. but i think sherlock himself in sherlock bbc is fundamentally inconsistent and trying to be too much at once. sherlocks sexual encounters alone strike me as as OOC and fan servicey as when dexter started having sex on that show (if youre familiar with it.) and no, im not a sherlock-is-an-asexual type or a sherlock-is-gay type. i dont care about that but the nature of the encounters were not consistent with his character. there are plenty of other things but i just dont think he works the way the original does. there are plenty of people like the RL sherlock. moffats, not so much imo.

i also think the psychology of moffats criminals is less convincing than acd's. bbc's sherlock may be more consistent about tiny details. which would matter immensely if we were real life cops or forensic experts looking at a police report. but because we're not, most mysteries rely heavily on psychology for clues and convincing (to the audience) evidence. imo, sherlock bbc falls flat on this, whereas conan doyle did a solid enough job.just wanted to clarify my complaints with the show

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, then.

My opinions are basically the reverse of yours, but then, that's why it's called an opinion. :D