[ SECRET POSTS #2128 & 2129 ]

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⌈ Secret Posts #2128 & 2129 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Time Lincoln]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Repo the Genetic Opera]


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[The Avengers]


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[Homestuck/Touhou]


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[ElfQuest/Wendy Pini]


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[Reservoir Dogs + HBO's Oz]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Covert Affairs]


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[Ouran Host Club]


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[Jae Joong from DBSK and JYJ]


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[Elementary]


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[The Girls Next Door]


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[Steven Moffat]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Alan Cumming/Son of the Mask]


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[The New Normal]


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[Mass Effect]


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[Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle/xxxHolic]


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[Resident Evil 6]


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[Revenge/The Social Network]


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[Cardcaptor Sakura]


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[Glee]


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[Khimeros]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[Gregory House/Lady Gaga]


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[Glee]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Madonna "Die Another Day" MV, BEG "Sixth Sense" MV]


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[Doctor Who]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 046 secrets from Secret Submission Post #304.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And even in a zombie apocalypse, a person who doesn't have the proper respect for a weapon and sees it as a substitute penis (sorry, that's all I can equate her obsession with getting one as after the whole "why are we the ones doing laundry?" discussion) is a MONSTROUS liability. She wasn't demanding a weapon to feel safer, or to protect the group, she was doing it so that she could sit on top of the RV and not cook or clean or be demoted to the roles the other women (for whatever their personal reasons) were taking. Fuck, she could have gotten away with the group if she'd just been willing to drop the goddamn guns and run!

A person who just sees a gun as a thing to wave around is a time bomb that's just going to injure themselves or others, worst case scenario. Best case scenario, they make a lot of noise and attract lots of walkers. Nevermind that guns have a finite usefulness. Run out of bullets, and your AK-47 is all but useless.

At the point where she shot Daryl, she chose to try and show off by taking a long shot on a target that wasn't an immediate threat, and which was about to be clobbered to death in a large open area by three very aware individuals. The odds of a walker being able to grab/overpower/even scratch any of them before they clubbed it to death were miniscule. I'm sorry, but it was pure showboating, and it nearly killed at least one person. (Had her aim been worse, she could have hit one of the other guys, too)

Shane's "Fuck it, let's just shoot them, it's a goddamned zombie apocalypse!" approach, which resulting in the massive shoot-down of the walkers in the barn, is probably a direct contributor what attracted such an enormous herd of walkers directly to the farm.

[ariakas]

They all needed to be able to defend themselves, sorry brah. On the off chance any of them were separated, and unable to acquire assistance, so as not to be completely helpless. Not just Andrea, but all of them. Refusing to arm members of the group makes those members keeping the weapons away directly responsible for the deaths of those that died because they were unarmed.

To do otherwise is to put the lives of the other members of the group at ludicrously unnecessary risk, and the fact that the little girl died is entirely on the heads of the adults who made sure that she would be helpless in the event that what happened, happened.

Every single member of that group should have been armed. If not with a gun, then at least something - it's not that hard to crack open a human skull with a bat, or a pipe. And every single member should have been contributing to the maintenance of the group (cooking, cleaning, etc.) as well. That would have been the intelligent, responsible thing to do.

Of course, everyone in that group (aside from possibly Daryl) was an imbecile who put the whole group at risk on one if not multiple occasions, so I'm not sure why you're singling out Andrea in the first place.

[(Anonymous)]

That's true, they did- they really did. And I do wish that had been acknowledged sooner on the show. I never said they didn't. Bats, hammers, pipes, anything could be a weapon, and should be - naturally. At least they do seem to have gotten better in that regard this season. The idea that was pushed (and I can't help but notice anytime a zombie style story comes up) that guns are the end all, be all of defense against the dead is one of my pet peeves. Save your guns for the living and the odd sniper shot of necessity - or clearing an area you don't know well and have very poor vision in like the prison. *sigh* (Freaking hell, why was old man Hershel even IN the clearance team? He's the second most valuable player they've GOT!)

My problem with Andrea in particular is the whining, foot stomping, and the tantrums, coupled with weapon use that I can't help but see as blatant irresponsibility and disrespectful handling. (Protip: If you want to be taken seriously as an adult and/or persuade people that they should do something for you, that is NOT how to do it.) I liked her (and Amy) very much in S1.. seeing her regress into a petulant toddler just infuriated me in S2. She turned into something I absolutely despise. I'm hopeful she's through with that, and I can start liking her once more.

Trust me though, I could go on a rant about the basic stupidity of EACH of the characters, lol! (Know what would be awesome? If they worked to make functional bows and arrows and teach as many as possible to shoot with them! Long range weapon, reusable ammo that you can make if need be, and silent to shoot! More crossbows like Daryl's would be fantastic, but bows would be a good stop gap. :D)

[ariakas]

If they worked to make functional bows and arrows and teach as many as possible to shoot with them!

This was more or less my thought exactly, once it was established how effective Daryl's bow was against zombies (in other universes, where the brain has to be more or less destroyed to kill a zombie, a bow is not what you'd want to have). Why they haven't done this is beyond me.

That said (and I wrote a whole essay about this after ragequitting the show in S2, I'll see if I can find it if you're interested) reloading spent ammunition is not anywhere near as difficult as the producers of the show seem to think it would be. This is the Southern US - you'd find the proper equipment for it in many garages, and failing that, the back of any decent gun store. Many, many gun owners do it as a hobby or to save money - it is not a special elite skill. Running out of bullets does not mean they can't just make more.

Barring that, just finding a mould would allow them to make their own casings out of scrap metal and modern primers are hardly as difficult or dangerous to use as black powder - making new gun cotton would be trivial. Reloading shotgun shells is even simpler.

The primary advantage of a bow, of course, is the lack of sound and that's still the case, but people in these shows always seem to act like nobody knows how to make cartridges in their garages anymore.

[visp]

even in a zombie apocalypse, a person who doesn't have the proper respect for a weapon and sees it as a substitute penis (sorry, that's all I can equate her obsession with getting one as after the whole "why are we the ones doing laundry?"

But, see, that's part of why people call the show sexist. "All the proper women are doing laundry and only miss stupid I-want-to-be-a-man wants to fight, isn't she a silly," has some implications, dontchathink?

[(Anonymous)]

Proper respect for a weapon, dumbass. Not "proper women."

I see reading has still not advanced past a 3rd grade level for you.

[visp]

If you truly can't see how saying "she only wants a gun because she's trying for a replacement penis" is sexist then there's really no help for you.