[ SECRET POST #2133 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2133 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

In what universe is femslash frowned upon? This is news to me. Every dude on the planet is allowed to cheer for women kissing because it gets them off, but the instant a woman cheers because men are cheering she gets shot down. There are down sides to both, I understand that, but the world is overwhelmingly more accepting of a female couple than a male couple.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you not been in fandom very long, or just managed to avoid the super popular/wanky fandoms like HP, SPN and Avengers?

Go to any one of those and about 95% of the shipping fic will be het or slash. Granted, there must be some fandoms where femslash prevails, but fandom as a whole is not known for its embracing of femslash, esp. in porn.
IRL may be a different matter, idk.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a difference between being neglected and being actively disapproved of. I've often seen femslash neglected, I'm not sure I've ever seen it actively disapproved of.

[(Anonymous)]

It's definitely disapproved of by rabid slashers who want to ignore all the ladies and focus only on their boys.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not just slashers.I know a lot of het fans that are pretty damn hateful. Sucks to be a femmslasher sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

Is there any active disapproval?

Because apathy is not the same as withdrawing in disgust.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Active disapproval. I do know what the word means and used it appropriately, but thanks for double checking!

[(Anonymous)]

No problem, Anon! I try to help.

I guess all I can say is that I've never encountered active disdain for femmeslashing, but I guess I don't hang out in the same circles you do or something.

[(Anonymous)]

That's called not caring and focusing on what you like though. You like the tits and they like the dicks. Don't be a butthurt femslasher.

[(Anonymous)]

Aww, you're cute.

[(Anonymous)]

In fandom, it's often disapproved of.

To give an example: I was in a fandom some years ago for a show that featured a canonically lesbian character. Shipping her with the main female character was considered "disgusting" and "wrong." I wrote a fic centering around that ship and actually received hate mail for it.

It's great that you haven't encountered that sort of response, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't ever happen.

[(Anonymous)]

Precisely. It's almost hilarious (though sad) to see it.

You don't have to ship a femslash pairing if that's not your thing. But saying its gross and shouldn't exist at all just because it involves two ladies means you need to grow up.

Thankfully, most bigoted slashers produce substandard slash to begin with in my experience anyway. There are often alarm bells in their own slash work- like insisting that there always has to be an uke and seme type relationship and no other can exist. So as a fan of slash, het and femslash I can sometimes avoid them.

[(Anonymous)]

But what are your thoughts on yaoi

[(Anonymous)]

From my experience I think m/m is more disapproved of in fandom than anything from what i've seen. There's just more fans of it so it kind of drowns out the haters. People are generally just meh when it comes to f/f and generally don't care especially if you're in anime fandoms where half of the time you'll probably get shit from non yaoi fans for being a yaoi fan.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not talking about fandom, though. You're talking about mainstream society.

[inkdust]

Which is also not true.

[(Anonymous)]

actually, no

my mother was borderline abusive about my coming out

i've gotten creepy comments from strange men

people have acted like not liking men makes me a dumb teen rebel type (i'm in my twenties) or a little kid who needs to grow up, and that a relationship between two girls can't be serious

it's never happened to me but corrective rape of lesbians/other queer women in f/f relationships is a thing

teen lesbians are actually more likely to get pregnant than teen straight girls because many of them desperately don't want to be gay

it's not easy being a gay man either but please don't make it out like being a gay woman is a stroll in the park

[(Anonymous)]

thank you for saying this.