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Comments

[yeahscience]

I'm talking about a general attitude I see frequently online that I find, at best, problematic. Like, for example, I was in Rome for a while and absolutely hated it -- when I tell people that, I get the occasional, "How can you say that, Rome is soooo great!" but most of the time I get, "Oh, why? What happened?" Whereas 99% of the time if I see someone say they were bored by Japan or didn't have a good time here, the reply I see is, "But Japan is sooo [insert something like RICH CULTURE/FASCINATING/HISTORICAL/etc.]." It contributes to exactly the same hole the weeaboos are falling into.

[(Anonymous)]

IA. I like history, I typically like learning about other cultures. Japan [and most eastern asian history/culture really] just doesn't interest me. When people find that out the usual reaction is either 'OMG, how can you not? The history/culture/whatever is so amazing!' and/or 'OMG, you just don't understand/don't know/don't 'get it'.' It's annoying at best that people seem to honestly believe it's Not Okay to find Japan's history/culture/whatever amazing.

[misstwist]

I've never been to Rome and if anyone told me how they felt about it, I'd ask "why" regardless of whether they liked it or not.

I think that asking questions about travel (usually about things that I might be interested in) or offering a different perspective (this is what I liked/didn't like) is interesting.

I am often surprised by the number of people who stayed in a place for a few days and rarely ventured far from their hotel. Of course they didn't have a good time, they didn't actually do anything or go anywhere!

I am also reminded of a woman that I traveled with to Japan (my first trip) who HATED it because she couldn't find "good Japanese food" anywhere, that there wasn't any "Japanese architecture," and that the fashion was bad. Meanwhile, I'm exploring like a maniac and discovering the joy that is hot coffee in a can from a VENDING MACHINE. Japan is a smaller country than the US, but there's a lot of variety just like most other modernized countries, you just have to look for the things that make it work for you.

[yeahscience]

Okay, this isn't what I'm saying, though. I'm saying that people blame weeaboos for putting Japan on a pedestal, but even when criticizing weeaboos they often tend to do the same thing, and depending on how seriously you take such things it's either annoying or Othering.

Read what I wrote again. I said most people ask why about Rome and not Japan, in my experience, as if the default assumption is that there must be a reasonable explanation for Rome, but Japan is such a fascinating world culture that people must find it interesting and deep.

[misstwist]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but responding with my own thoughts on a topic that you introduced. It's a called a "conversation" - they can be fun sometimes.

[yeahscience]

It was written as though you were responding to a point I didn't make, though.

[misstwist]

You're forgiven.

[(Anonymous)]

You are just a bristling porcupine of arrogance.

[misstwist]

Or I'm sarcastic and I forgot to put the winky emoticon on that post. Your choice.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm. I find I really enjoy the image of an extremely advanced and arrogant porcupine, quills a-quiver, sitting at a computer and furiously typing responses to threads on f!s.

I hope you don't mind.

[misstwist]

Sorry I find this so interesting and that it bothers you enough that you have to post anonymously.

[anonymouslyyours]

Lol because your empty account makes you so transparent. Unless you're saying you are your only friend on there?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have an account :( I am a shadow upon this community

[insolentwitch]

Poe's Law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

[anonymouslyyours]

Did you see yesterday where misstwist told an anon who identified as mixed-race they needed to work on personal issues because they disagreed with her on how racial issues had affected anon's life? Because I did and she told me some people deserve condescension.

No, really.
http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/701687.html?thread=597555959#cmt597555959

Perhaps she should have left a winky emoticon?

[misstwist]

That's not what that thread was about (shortened: cultural appropriation is not about race), so I'm glad you linked to it so that others can read it.

[anonymouslyyours]

IDGAF who was right. I don't even have an opinion on that because I came in on you being condescending and dismissive of someone affected by the issue being discussed. Even if you're right and there's internalization at work your attitude towards anon is uncalled for. And I linked it so people could see that.

[(Anonymous)]

...and you're an ignorant, condescending ass.

[(Anonymous)]

She does that a lot - see upthread.

[kikkyo]

"...HATED it because she couldn't find "good Japanese food" anywhere"

What.

Seriously, I'd have probably gained ten pounds from eating everything in sight just to get a feel for how the food really is over there. Foreign foods made in the US always get Americanized to all hell and back tbh.

[misstwist]

There wasn't a single thing we did that she didn't complain about as if Japanese people didn't know what Japan was supposed to be like. It was the weirdest and most annoying thing I have ever had to deal with.

[kikkyo]

Some people just aren't gonna be happy with anything they get, kind of a waste of a good trip to keep a negative attitude the whole time. I'm kind of loving that idea of hot coffee in a can though.

[misstwist]

I really wanted to travel to Canada with her and see what happened. ;)

The hot beverage vending machines are a convenience that I embraced wholeheartedly and wish were available where I live.

[(Anonymous)]

Be honest.

Will I starve if I visit? /can't eat most seafood.

[(Anonymous)]

no. There's lots of other food you can find, it just might take you a bit more care and thought.