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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-06 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2135 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2135 ⌋

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Re: Election!

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhhhh. I mean, what you're saying is broadly true - the effect of overturning roe v wade would not be immediately to criminalize it inherently. it would be to return the matter to the states. but the effect would be in many cases to criminalize it, since abortion bans would almost immediately be passed in many states - certainly most deep red states. i mean, there's a reason why overturning roe v wade is the focus of the pro-life movement (and hence why supreme court nominations are of supreme importance to that movement) - because as it stands, changing the issue of legality from a constitutional issue to a state choice is the only way forward to ban abortion. it's not a risk, because for one thing, the situation can only get better for the pro-life crowd - states currently have the ability to make abortion less difficult but not more difficult, and overturning Roe would change that. and, almost immediately, much of the country would have abortion banned - and although that would not be the legal effect of overturning roe v wade, it would be the result of doing so, and pro-choice activists want to overturn it for that reason. for all intents and purposes, overturning roe v wade would have the effect of criminalizing abortion in many states.

and although i think there is space for a principled stand on the issue on the ground that it ought to be the domain of the states, and i admire you for seeming to take such a stance and i respect it, almost all people who care about roe v wade do so because they either want to criminalize or avoid the criminalization of abortion. and i think that applies to romney as well, at the very least in the sense that, regardless of his personal beliefs, partisan politics in the United States would require him to nominate a Supreme Court justice who would overturn abortion to palliate his evangelical anti-abortion supporters.

and i just want to say in closing that this has been a really interesting conversation, and thanks for that