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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-06 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2135 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2135 ⌋

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Re: incoming tl;dr

[personal profile] vestigialwords 2012-11-08 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I'm glad I was making sense, then. :)

Oh man, a few months ago I actually got really curious what Steve/Fem!Bucky would look like (because there is pretty much none of it that I've seen). I sat down at my computer and accidentally wrote, like, ~13,000 words of Steve/Fem!Bucky (with some Fem!Bucky/Natasha thrown in). Problem is that it's mostly vignettes with no steady POV, some world-building, and no connecting thread whatsoever.

Keeping the Steve/Bucky dynamic stable while addressing the world around them is really difficult. Making Bucky a woman turns so many things upside down with respect to expected gender roles, and what would have been considered socially appropriate. As children, I made it work by having girl!Bucky pretend to be a little boy for the beginning of their friendship, but once they grow up... a fem!Bucky would not have been as happily received by society (a woman who "doesn't know her place") as Bucky proper (who more or less conforms to the "ideal young man," at least, from what we saw in the MCU). A scrawny young man (Steve) who is frequently saved by a woman wouldn't be too well-received by anyone either. It changes so much, and it's really intimidating to write/a hard line to walk. At least, it was for me when I tried.

Re: incoming tl;dr

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I've run into that problem, too.

Lately though I've been thinking that maybe Fem!Bucky would just pull a Mulan, and pretend to be male so as to serve her country but still identify as female and Steve is one of the few who knows she's a lady (and maybe some others like Dum Dum Dugan)

but

my brain has almost permanently retconned Bucky into being female, just passing as male.

Re: incoming tl;dr

[personal profile] vestigialwords 2012-11-08 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I considered doing that, and I know women have been sneaking into the military probably for as long as there has been a military to sneak onto. But getting her into the military actually wasn't the part that I struggled with. (Although I went a different direction and made an AU where the US Army, struggling to maintain its numbers, started taking women into active combat on a volunteer-basis, if they could pass a barrage of physical tests. Tests which I think Bucky could have passed easily, having been a fighter her whole life for Steve).

Having Bucky hide her identity from everyone except Steve is a much simpler solution to these problems, to be sure. It probably makes more sense for a fic that stands a chance of being published, to be honest. I was just having fun exploring what it might look like if she didn't hide anything. Because I wanted fem!Bucky to be completely unapologetic about the way she is, just like Steve. From there it ended up becoming very much pre-War-Steve-and-Bucky-against-the-world, which is different relationship than they have in the MCU (where Steve fights the world and Bucky tries to pull him into it). And then when things got too different, I started to doubt myself and gave up. :\

But it's funny you should mention Dum-Dum, because I absolutely love the idea of Dum-Dum and (Fem!)Bucky broing it up, and have quite a bit written of them doing just that.

Re: incoming tl;dr

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I'm also a lot more shallow than you are (I don't write, either) so I justify it in my mind with vague "well Peggy was in the military and stuff" but it's still not even close to the same thing.

Dum-Dum is fantastic, and he and any incarnation of Bucky are required to be bros in my head-canon.

Re: incoming tl;dr

[personal profile] vestigialwords 2012-11-08 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
hahaha, to be honest, I just spend way too much time thinking about Bucky/Steve in any incarnation, and LOL, when I say "I write," I mean that I have an overflowing WIP folder on my hard drive and I publish something like, once a year. Maybe. It feels fake.

Dum Dum love, yes! I'm not even sure where my enthusiasm for his character comes from, but it's there.