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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-06 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2135 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2135 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I understood that. I just think that it has really unfortunate implications that the ficthor probably doesn't intend. Because of the inconsistency where we're supposed to see Megatron's smacking Starscream around as evil and bad and sick and wrong, but Starscream's smacking of Steve as excusable. To me, it has a strong whiff of "forgive abusive people if they were abused themselves" in it. And I'm uncomfortable with that.

I mean, I do think there's something to Gilligan's "violence as contagion" theory, don't get me wrong. But I also think the idea that abusers have no responsibility if someone did it to them is... well, one of the things that keeps real people in DV situations. "I have to forgive him and have compassion for him because of what his daddy did" type stuff.

It probably wouldn't make me as uncomfortable if violence from Megatron and violence from Starscream weren't treated so differently. It's like "it's a sad forgivable little quirk if the protagonist does it, but it's horrible if the villain does it." If both Megatron's and Starscream's violence were minimized or treated as everyday, I think i'd have an easier time of it. I'd know I was in Fictionland, where beating someone doesn't mean abuse. But instead I'm in Inconsistentfictionland, and that makes it hard to get my bearings, if that makes any sense.

I don't know. It probably wasn't even thought through much by the ficthor herself. But it gave me a funny oogy feeling and made me uncomfortable.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-11-08 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
Well, like I said, I haven't read it, so I'll have to take your word for it that it treats Megatron and Starscream's violence differently, in which case, I agree it's unfortunate.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. I'm not saying it's terrible. Just that it strikes me as "it's less bad when the pretty one does it." I think fans tend to leather -pants Starscream because he's woobieable, whereas Megatron really isn't.

Kind of like what some Avengers fans do with Loki. It's not personally my bag at all, but many fangirls love their woobies. YMMV.