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⌈ Secret Post #2137 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

As an honest question, do you have any examples of how black Dutch people have reacted to zwarte pietz?

[kallanda_lee]

The plural is Zwarte Pieten :)

There has been some controversy in Holland, especially in recent years. I know a few poc in Holland (mostly of Surinamer descent)who themselves happily participate in the festivities, but of course that's anecdotal.
As other anon in the thread says, globalization does change things. From what I can tell, the issue was mostly brought up by expats or people who immigrated from other countries. It IS quite possible that it will cause the tradition to change over years, but from what I can tell criticism only started happening fairly recently.

I know a couple of years back a few people were actually arrested protesting against Sinterklaas.

This:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ppXN9ipi58 was actually a vox pop done as a result of the arrest. It's in Dutch, sorry. The first guy says it's racist, and that people don't know their colonial history. The other people there are saying they ether don't mind or even that they like it (or their kids like it). In Belgium (where I live), I've heard even less criticism.

If you're looking for someone who spoke out against it, google Quinsy Gario and the movement around him (he's originally from Curacao, though)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry for messing the phrase up -- I should have looked it up more carefully.

Thank you for the well-thought-out response and the link.