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⌈ Secret Post #2137 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Personally, why I prefer TFA Starscream is that although he's just as much of a failure, he still remains egotistical, prideful, and does not put up with anyone's crap and just keeps on trucking while sporting that attitude.

TFP Starscream has his moments, but he spends like half of it whimpering and reduced into a pale shadow of himself (specifically his Season One self). This is the same Starscream who viciously murdered Cliffjumper in the first episode, then around Season Two, started whimpering around Silas for no reason other than the plot wanting to make Silas look threatening (even more dubious because the episode before had SS all up in Silas' business).

Though I actually liked Starscream shaking his hips in that episode; it's funny!

[wherenobotsgone]

Oh, yes, if like TFA best I can see how this one bothers you. Like I said up there about Megatron, I think they're more or less "G1 taken seriously". TFA went in a different direction.

That said, I always got the impression that most of his whining and whimpering was supposed to be fake. Look at his fight with Arcee, for example, where he turned it around at the last moment. I think a big part of it is an act on his part to get away with stuff. Or when Dreadwing is threatening him - he stops to go "oh, you know about that" in his normal voice and then turns it up to eleven again.

ETA: ... and I'm still laurus_nobilis but didn't realize I was logged into my RP account, heh.

[neoyi.livejournal.com]

(Sorry, I'm the anon from above, just forgot to put my username the first time. O_O)

The Arcee one was an epic crowning moment for Starscream, but keep in mind it was for that one specific moment. Every other scene had Starscream whimpering. I'm aware he was down on his luck at that point, but there was no indication prior to the Arcee scene that convinced me his every begging and pleading was nothing but just that.

And there's also the Silas example I stated above: In "Operation Bumblebee: Part 1", Starscream was at his best as he bargained with Silas and showed he was his own bot and looked down on these humans. In "Part 2", he completely whimpers under Silas for no reason other than to make the human look threatening. There's no explanation for this; they just do it.

And then there's the whole "Oh, did you know I killed Cliffjumper?" excuse. Way to tarnish a character's death that had an overall impact on the series AND an awesome scene, Screamer. Every time he says that, it's clear he's grasping for straws and the more he repeated it, the pathetic he got. (I'm aware that Season Two likely had this mind when Starscream struck out on his own, but well, same opinion with TFA Starscream who ended up in a similar situation).

And etctera ectera (I will not list and/or dig too much because I don't need to be anymore insane than I am now XD), but I think it may be a narrative issue for me. A lot of the time, when a character acts a certain behavior, it usually will be that certain behavior and the plot won't indicate it's anything but. TFP isn't a subtle show (not that I'm saying that's a bad thing). Starscream may be sneaky, but TFP usually tells us what he's going to do and how he's going to act, so that's why whenever he whimpers, I will assume he is whimpering. It's actually why I loved both "Inside Job" and "Patch" because I think it returned him to form - he showed those Omega Keys to Megatron LIKE A BOSS. >:D

On an unrelated note, it's funny you mention TFP is "G1 taken seriously" because I agree. That's actually one of the major reasons why I have such a huge problem with TFP, but that's another bitching for another day. ^_^;