[ SECRET POST #2142 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2142 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry it's late!

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 066 secrets from Secret Submission Post #306.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't ventured the forums much (... kind of not sorry reading all of this), but have any of the mods or admins ever tried to reign people back in? Or is it the sort of thing where they a, like the drama, or b, are pretty much MIA mods?

[brightblueink]

Well, they try, but...Fasteddie, the admin, starts some of the drama, at least from what I've seen. For example, he really hates the Japanese-named tropes (which is understandable, since they tend to be fanspeak and not always make sense to people who aren't anime fans), so he's really belligerent about changing the names...even when they're concepts that are only applicable to anime, like a popular character that spun off an archetype in Japanese media, or how the way eyes are drawn in some anime reflects a character's personality. He also switched "Shonen" and "Shoujo" to "Shonen Genre" and "Shoujo Genre" even though they're not actually genres, but demographics, that encapsulate a wide range of genres (and often even share genres) and wouldn't listen to people when they tried to explain why the change he made was incorrect. I also found that he often just came across as rude and condescending, particularly if you were an anime fan. (TVTropes started off as a Buffy fandom thing, and from what I saw he freely admits that he doesn't like anime or "get" it.)

I think a lot of his attitude is a reaction to how insane the community can be, so I sort of understand it, but it's really, really frustrating when you're trying to explain to him why a certain term has been used or why you're on an opposing side and he's coming across as if it doesn't matter what you say because he's already decided you're unreasonable. It just felt like the whole forum was very polarized and it was impossible to really get anything done. That, and the rules and guidelines were changing so much that I'd have to devote all of my free time to keeping up with them just so my edits didn't violate some new style guideline or rule, so I gave up. It wasn't all the administration's fault, a lot of their reactions were just an attempt to try to clean up the mess that the wiki and community had become, but it just got too stressful all around, IMO.

That being said, this is definitely a one-sided, biased opinion from me, so please take it with a grain of salt. It could be that I just tried to jump into the forums at a bad time, or something.

[(Anonymous)]

tl;dr version:

there are not enough mods

their rules/guidelines are too vague

their prime directive appears to be "eliminate people being dicks", which instead of resulting in a "safe and happy" environment like they wanted, resulted in people saying racist/pedo-apologist/rape-apologist things without cursing or attacking other users staying, where people directly criticizing the site's administration or the users getting admonished or banned for being "trolls", "dicks", etc.

the mods tend to disagree amongst themselves in which direction/policy to take the site

the owner is super paranoid of the something awful forum members and thinks every single constructive criticism comes from them and/or trolls

they are torn between wanting to be vaguely academic but not wanting analysis, wanting fun but not reigning in anyone until things get out of control, wanting to get rid of the trash but not wanting to offend their users or something

[(Anonymous)]

The admin is so terrible that it's hilarious. For example, the site was getting bad attention for being really terrible and creepy about rape. How do you handle that? Shut down every page with 'rape' in the title. Including The Rape of the Lock.