[ SECRET POST #2142 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2142 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry it's late!

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Comments

Re: my various beefs with tvtropes, a novel

[(Anonymous)]

Full stop, that's it, onto the next totally random and meaningless item on the list. It's not a very good writing resource, because it offers you no insight as to why this story-telling tool exists or why it is an enduring image, and thus why a writer might want to use it as visual shorthand for something or a character trait or whatever. It just says "this is a character who eats a lot" and leaves it at that.

What.

Tvtropes's purpose is not being a "writing resource" or for explaining enduring images or deep character traits and metaphors. It's for, exactly as you say, listing random things about a character. Full stop. That's exactly it. It never has pretended to be anything but random lists of traits and narrative devices. That's what people use it for. Only fools would use it as a writing resource. It's...it's like you're criticizing Ocean's Eleven for not being Casablanca.

Just chill. I assure you that very few people take it as seriously as you do. And if they do take it that seriously, well, they're probably too dumb to grasp any deeper meaning to a character than "eats a lot" anyway.

Re: my various beefs with tvtropes, a novel

[leikomgwtfbbq]

Fair enough, but it did start out trying to be one, many many moons ago, and a lot of people on its forum use it as a writing resource, recommend it to others as one, and so do the people who run it. The admins seem to think that they're actually kinda academic and stuff.

A trivia page is perfectly fine. I like stupid and meaningless trivia. But as long as it's honestly stupid and meaningless trivia, and not trivia poorly attempting to masquerade as a writing resource.

Re: my various beefs with tvtropes, a novel

[(Anonymous)]

"Tvtropes's purpose is not being a "writing resource" or for explaining enduring images or deep character traits and metaphors."

I've seen at least one mod say that it totally is, along other forum regulars. They only stopped claiming that (in the forums, at least), when someone pointed out why it wasn't academical.

(I can't find the thread. It was during the whole purge thing, where one user started a topic asking where TV Tropes was headed and what it wanted to be, if academic or not, and a whole argument ensued where the final decision was that, nope, not analysis, but in, for example, FastEddie's appeal to Google when they withdrew their ads, and in other sites when playing damage control, he and other mods have claimed that TV Tropes has value because it can be used by academics as a source.)

"Tvtropes's purpose is not being a "writing resource" or for explaining enduring images or deep character traits and metaphors."

Tell that to, pretty much all the forum goers in the Writer's Block forum. Ha.

"I assure you that very few people take it as seriously as you do."

Yes, it's only a few, but it's the few that put in their weight every time policies and major edits and such are brought on, so when people point out -like you correctly did just now- that they're just lists upon lists and serve no academic purpose they either insist that it totally is and backpedal when they realize that they're caught.