[ SECRET POST #2144 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2144 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 023 secrets from Secret Submission Post #306.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[fenm]

If John is so repressed that the audience will never see him express his feeling towards Sherlock, then it's the same thing as him NOT having them

It really isn't.

Yes, it absolutely is. If the audience can't see it, it doesn't exist.

John expressing his feelings to Sherlock? How could that be IC in any way

And ain't that fucking convenient? Write a guy who's sexually repressed, have someone he's in love with his male friend (look, we're progressive! We're talking about gays and shit!), then justify never actually following through by pointing out repressed he is. Something YOU (I don't mean you, I mean Moffat & Co.) wrote him as in the first place. Why, it's kind of like saying a woman is gay, but the only relationship we see her in be with a man.

See, that's the problem with this show: It'll TALK about homosexuality all the live-long day, but when comes to portraying homosexuality? Yeah, not so much.

Also, the story isn't finished,

This is true. So are you saying that at some point in a future episode, John WILL express his love for Sherlock?

there are more of them than Moffat

Yes, there are three writers. But Moffat wrote SIB.

[sarnath]

If the audience can't see it, it doesn't exist.

But the audience can see it. He doesn't have to express it to Sherlock for us to do so.

Write a guy who's sexually repressed, have someone he's in love with his male friend (look, we're progressive! We're talking about gays and shit!),

Well, is this in any way common in mainstream fiction? A main male character implied to have actual, serious romantic feelings for the other main male character? I haven't anywhere said it's progressive. I just think it's better than a world where it's implied that same-sex relationships don't even exist. It's not progressive, it's simply not reactionary.

Why, it's kind of like saying a woman is gay, but the only relationship we see her in be with a man.

We're not actually shown Irene having a relationship at all, unless you count the heavily implied connection between her and her female assistant. The whole case starts up because of Irene's relations with a woman (heavily implied to be the girlfriend of one of the princes).

So are you saying that at some point in a future episode, John WILL express his love for Sherlock?

How should I know?

Are you saying that unrequited love is automatically homophobic if it's between two men?

Yes, there are three writers. But Moffat wrote SIB.

At least Moffat and Gatiss are involved in the overall plotting, if I've understood things right. And it's not as if Scandal is the only episode where people have thought John and Sherlock were together.

[fenm]

But the audience can see it.

Look at the secret you replied to. And it's hardly the first of its kind, nor will it be the last. So I'd say, no, they can't.

[sarnath]

Not everyone will see it, of course. But I was trying to be polite.