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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-22 06:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2151 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2151 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Jane Eyre spoilers. In case you need warning for something 150yrs old

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I know nothing about this OP, but it really saddens me when new adaptations remove religion from a story. The recent Jane Eyre movie was terrible for that. Yes, I admit I have a faith, and I would like to see more religious representation in the media, but more than that at the time it was set religion (Christianity to be specific) was a very powerful part of society, and the problems entailed in the concept of Jane staying with Rochester while he was still married were majorly tied in with that. When you remove an element of a previous generation's lifestyle from a story you do a disservice to both your audience and all the other work you do to make it accurate.
There's nothing at all wrong with "What if...?" stories, but when you're writing one that is trying to portray itself as potentially possible for the period in which it was set, even if it brings in fantastic elements, you really ruin your efforts when you remove aspects of the society of the day that are either un-PC or difficult for the audience to relate to.

And I now want to see the original, OP :-)

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think you misunderstood me? The original did not mention religion in any significant way. The parody in the musical harped on marijuana being a tool of the devil, had a choir of angels asking the lead to shape up, etc.

The impression I've gotten from watching terrible low-budget 1930s films and terrible low-budget 1950s films is that while people in the 1930s may have been very religious, they weren't as ostentatious about it as people in the 1950s. The "religion-on-the-sleeve" in the parody is another way it "feels" more like '50s then '30s.

Not that this has any relevance to my overfocusing on subtle differentiations in decade in a parody...

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh fair enough, I apologise for misunderstanding you. The majority of my point still stands though. When you alter things like that to make them more accessible/palatable for your current audience you do a disservice to them and to whatever research you did. The fact that religion was inserted rather than removed is a minor issue in the face of what I understood as "originally this was realistic, the remake made it less accurate".

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Reading the secret again, I can see how you'd be confused if you aren't familiar with the source. Whoops.

The original was "realistically" '30s-flavored because it was made in the '30s. The remake is more '50s-flavored, I assume because that's even more parody-able. The '50s-flavored parts are funny, don't get me wrong, they're doing what they're supposed to do. But -- NNGGH! YOU SAID 1936! You're not acting like 1936! ...[tantrum]
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Re: Jane Eyre spoilers. In case you need warning for something 150yrs old

[personal profile] lyndis 2012-11-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, Anon.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-11-23 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen the movie once but I believe the 50's-style camp was intentional, anon.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Hence the silliness of my incessant whining about how it claims to be in the '30s.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-11-23 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm not sure why you're whining if you know that. The secret makes it sound like you think these things are errors, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Does it just bother you that they knowingly played with the tropes of two different time periods or something?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know why, but it drives me crazy.

DA

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
It would drive me crazy too.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Now I have the songs stuck in my head again. XD

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well then. I guess there's only one thing to do.

D'ya like brownies?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow, I just saw this movie last weekend for the first time. My bf kept remarking on the 50s and I had to correct him, it's 1936. So like someone else said, the 50s vibe was probably intentional... I could hardly believe it was a Depression-era setting too. So wholesome (er, at the beginning).

(Anonymous) 2012-11-23 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
LISTEN TO JESUS, JIMMY
SAY NO TO THE MARIJUANA!!!