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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-24 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #2153 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-11-24 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That was a general 'you', btw, I realized after posting it sounds kind of confusing.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-24 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no, I understood. Don't worry.

And I have to agree with you except for one part. It may or may not affect the actor. Haven't some admitted to being affected by it in interviews? (I don't know about this for sure so I could be wrong.)

However, an even bigger thing that I think it affects is the regular people online who see it. They now see attacking someone only for their looks to be okay. If they're like the OP and feel they look alike they start thinking people are attacking them.

So it can have quite a negative impact.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-24 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yea, I suppose that's true about it affecting the actors. I meant more in terms of their career or daily lives, what people are saying online won't have an impact. But in terms of personal stuff, the way they feel and the way they react to people who approach them, self-esteem, etc... I guess it depends on whether or not they spend time looking at what people are saying about them online.

I don't get the impression that Kristen Stewart would spend much time doing that, especially after Twilight. It became clear really quickly that the reception of Robert Pattinson as Edward was obsessive and crazy. I mean, I remember reading about him getting hit by a taxi while running away from fangirls. She seems savvy enough to realize that she would be getting a lot of hate just for playing Bella, much less after she actually got together with him. She never really struck me as someone who was keyed into the whole celebrity gossip world, but even if she had looked at the opinions of fans earlier in her career I think most of that impulse would have been killed by this point. For every person offering valid things she could improve upon, there will be a hundred Edward fangirls who are just heaping hate on her, talking about how she's the antichrist or how they want her to die.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-24 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
This is true. I was thinking more about the things you can't avoid. Though I suppose she could hire people to run her twitter account, look through fan mail, etc.

That still leaves the impact on the regular people though.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-24 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely think it's true about regular people. I tend to avoid places where people just trash each other for the sake of it, because that kind of talking a bunch of nothing breeds on itself. One person brings negativity, the next person absorbs it and spews out twice as much. It's kind of a 'misery loves company' situation, maybe.

But I think a person sometimes goes through those phases. When I was still a teenager in fandom, I used to read sporkings of fanfics (which soured for me when I started to realize the sporkings weren't much better than the fics, which tended to be written by preteen kids just learning how to write, a time when they really DON'T need the discouragement). And I used to bitch at people online, too. And I was friends with a lot of people who did the same stuff. And it wasn't that any of us were really hateful people, it was just a general environment that brought it out in us. And maybe at that age, part of feeling independent has to do with separating from the 'common denominator' in no uncertain terms.

At this point I'm I'm just really over the superior attitude that people take a lot of the time online. But I definitely remember some of the shit I said in high school (not fandom, either, my biggest blunders were just talking at school and with friends), and I'm like 'god, I can't believe I was such an idiot'. So I take it with a grain of salt, and just hope that the people being targeted know that their profession, because it is an idealized lifestyle, tends to bring a lot of negativity with it. I also hope that the people who partake in the hatefulness will get over it too, but I'm not so optimistic about that bit. Some people are just bitter.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-24 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
True. It's best to avoid that sort of thing.

I don't know. I think sometimes ranting a bit can be okay? Like, I went on a rant here a long time ago about The Dark Knight Rises. It was fun and not really argumentative. I think at the time I jokingly said complaining is like crack to me. I think negative emotions have a place. They just need to be directed in a non-hurtful way.

It is true that we all say things we regret, on and offline. The internet seems to give people the freedom to do it more with fewer repercussions. That doesn't always build a healthy environment.