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fandomsecrets2012-11-25 03:09 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2012-11-25 03:09 pm
[ SECRET POST #2154 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2154 ⌋
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First: why the hell isn't it okay if some girls don't like Star Wars? People are going to dislike things you like. Star Wars isn't some holy canon thing that everyone must try. It isn't even representative of science fiction. The girl who hates Star Wars might love Octavia Butler books. Star Wars is fantasy with lasers.
Second: You already know plenty of girls and women who like Star Wars. So where is the problem, exactly? Clearly this is appealing to girls and women.
You have odd ideas about women.
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Nobody ever said it's a ~horrible~ thing if women don't like Star Wars. But isn't it natural for a person who likes something to want to share it with others? What's wrong with saying "hey, maybe we could get more people to enjoy this, and spread the love around a little"?
You sound really threatened. And I haven't gotten any "weird about women" vibes from mekkio (and I'd say something if I had, since I tend to react to those myself).
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Anyway, I do get those vibes. They're very common vibes, though. That doesn't mean Mekkio doesn't like or respect women. They just appear to think that girls who like princess stuff are only capable of liking things marketed as princess stuff. Let's not question the fact that we're telling certain little girls they can only like things in pink boxes. Just keep putting things in pink boxes.
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Well I definitely didn't draw that conclusion. Then again, I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Let's not question the fact that we're telling certain little girls they can only like things in pink boxes. Just keep putting things in pink boxes.
Nobody here is saying we shouldn't challenge gender-oriented marketing, jeez
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The problem is the nature of the challenge. Instead of trying to break away from the idea of rigidly specific girl toys and rigidly specific boy toys, a lot of people in this thread (not necessarily you) are advocating improving the girl toys. Sticking girls in a somewhat edgier sparkleghetto isn't improving things much.
Again, the problem isn't playing princess. The problem is largely specific to Disney Princess branding and that marketing which copies it. I'm not saying there's something wrong with little girls playing princess in and of itself but rather the corporate and parent driven direction of that play.
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I get what you're saying, about society driving girls to only like ~girly princess sparkle~ things. But I'm not sure what you are trying to do - do you want to make it the opposite? Should only "tomboy" interests be encouraged, and princess interests suppressed? Some girls just like princesses. *shrug*
I think there's a balance, is what I'm saying.
I wouldn't be opposed to Leia becoming a Disney Princess as she is. If they had to change her appearance or personality to make it happen, then no, definitely not.
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Oh hell no. Dress up--including princess dress-up--and traditionally feminine play is awesome. I'm arguing with a corporate perversion of that which markets a specific version of it.
Taking Leia--who's already a positive female character who is traditionally feminine--into this specific Disney corporate princess mold wouldn't be a good thing.
As an aside, I doubt they'd actually do this.