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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-28 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #2157 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2157 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[2 Broke Girls]


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03.
[Love Actually]


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04.
[Me and My Dick]


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05.
[Journey Into Mystery]


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06.
[cracked.com]


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07.
[Ryan Kwanten/L4D2]


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08.
[Whispering Corridors, Memento Mori, The Wishing Stairs]


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[The Walking Dead (game)]


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10.
[Kuragehime]


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[Thor]


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[Bartimaeus]


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[The Sentinel]


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14.
[The Mentalist and The Addams Family]


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15.
[Skyfall]


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16.
[Generator Rex]


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17.
[Partners]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #308.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Priviledge can be confusing

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Following on from yesterday's introduction to forfuturereferenceonly, I have a question that has bugged me for a while.

If someone says "X priviledge warning" e.g. zir's title "Abled-body privilege warning is in effect" does that mean that zie is able-bodied and so might say something priviledged without intending to? Is it warning that able-bodied or non-able-bodied people may find something offensive/triggering in there? What sort of things do people warn for? For example, I'm a white, 20-something cis-gendered bisexual (but only heterosexually active) female Christian, able bodied, mentally disabled, well-educated, from the UK, allergic to strawberries...

In a related question, at what point can I legitimately say that my attempts not to offend anyone have caused words to lose all meaning? For some reason flagrant disregard for the conventions of grammar and the evolution of language annoy me far more than blatant prejudice. The latter might upset me more in the long-term, but for instant reaction it's party time for apostrophe's :-)

Re: Priviledge can be confusing

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I apologise for my repeated spelling mistake. In my defence that was the spelling given to me in school, which I was required to rote learn. When I'm concentrating on something other than the particular letters I type I tend to forget myself. Then I kick myself. Then I realise I posted anon because I still don't have a DW account so can't change it.

Perhaps I'll turn over a new leaf and sign up. :-)
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Re: Priviledge can be confusing

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-11-29 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it means they are able bodied, and a heads up in case they stick their foot in their mouth about it. Also that they may say something that totally notes that privilege(eg: "Walk down to your nearest grocer for blah blah blah"; "You must be blind if you can't see how yada yada yada.").


ftr, I don't bother with privilege warnings because it just makes sense to me not to talk about subjects I'm unfamiliar with as though I'm familiar with them. That, and there's acknowledging you have privilege, and pretending you're "warning" for it as a disclaimer to be a fuckhead.

Re: Priviledge can be confusing

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
TY for your reply, I really appreciate having that cleared up.

Unfortunately, I'm finding it hard to say much else without saying something less than PC. I wrote some more but it turned into a rambly rant. Suffice to say I very much appreciate having that explained.
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Re: Priviledge can be confusing

[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2012-11-29 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
You used "zir" and "zie" in all seriousness. I don't think you have to worry about appearing less than PC except to the most insane of SJWs, and they're not worth your time.
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Re: Priviledge can be confusing

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-11-29 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Granted you can say this about virtually any post having to do with the physical world to the point that this kind of warning becomes meaningless and exists only so a bunch of SJWs won't scream at them.

Which won't work.

Which is probably why you're posting anonymously.
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Re: Priviledge can be confusing

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-11-29 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
For the record you don't have to use a bunch of specific gender-neutral pronouns just because you're afraid someone will yell at you. This community is nicer than tumblr. You can stick to "they" if you want.

That is if you're doing it because you're afraid someone will yell at you and not because you actually believe in it, which if so is cool.

Re: Priviledge can be confusing

(Anonymous) 2012-11-29 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. Plus, aren't specialized gender-neutral pronouns--"zhie/zir," "ey/ou" and the like--best reserved for people who have explicitly said they prefer them? For every other purpose, there's good old "they."
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Re: Priviledge can be confusing

[personal profile] citrinesunset 2012-11-29 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
For your first question, I think it could mean that the person speaking is able-bodied (to use your example) and is trying to warn people that they may accidentally say something that shows their privilege in that regard. But I think I've seen warnings like that when someone posts a link or quote from something that comes across as very privileged.

People warn for any number of things. Some people, I think, go a little over-the-top about trying to warn for everything. It's really not possible to warn for everything that might bother someone. Also, personally, though I like knowing ahead of time if I'm going to read something upsetting, excessive warnings can make me feel a bit coddled. If you're wondering about what sort of stuff to warn for online, I think the most important thing is to give people some context so they're not completely taken unaware. It can be a good idea to include a warning if you're posting something about violence, sexual assault, suicide/self harm, and similar topics. Other than that, all you can do is use your best judgment and consider the context. If you know that your audience would appreciate a warning for a particular thing, then it might be good to include it.

Same goes for trying not to offend people. It just comes down to being sensitive to people's feelings and the meanings words have, which doesn't mean you have to please everyone at every time, or anticipate all potential issues. It's not all or nothing.