[ SECRET POST #2161 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2161 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/maB5z.png

[(Anonymous)]

I remember a long conversation about that scene between me, my sister and her boyfriend about this scene, on the way back from seeing Toy Story 3. The boyfriend assumed that the little girl actually replaced Lotso herself and didn't deserve to have the real one back; my sister and I were convinced that her parents realized they fucked up by not remembering her toys and bought a new Lotso and convinced her it was the same one.

Either way there's no reason she couldn't have two Lotsos.

[(Anonymous)]

I ended up with three versions of my favorite cat doll, actually! My parents thought that the first one was gone for good, the second was lost somehow, and then we found the first one up in the attic (rolled into a sleeping bag, of all things).

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, how many toys have we actually treated like people? So what if a girl wants to replace her inanimate object? From her perspective, it's the same "being", possibly.

I agree Lotso was probably replaced by her parents.

Also, I think it would have been fair for them to abandon Lotso--he'd already started stomping away and declaring they'd all been replaced. Lotso was crazy to think they all deserved to be abandoned because he was.

[citrinesunset]

When I was a kid, I had a long string of Barbie dolls that were the same "being." The first one lost its head when I was five, so my parents got me a new one. Then that one lost its head, and so on....(I wasn't playing guillotine with them or anything. They just got worn out).

I always hung onto the original one, though! The idea of having more than one doll that was the same character didn't bother me in the least.

[(Anonymous)]

my sister and I were convinced that her parents realized they fucked up by not remembering her toys and bought a new Lotso and convinced her it was the same one.

That's how I saw it. I assumed Daisy couldn't have been more than five, so she couldn't have replaced Lotso herself (she wouldn't have had any/enough allowance to spend, etc.).

Either way there's no reason she couldn't have two Lotsos.

No, there isn't, but that's not how Lotso sees it. In this universe, the toys have feelings, and this was a personal insult to him---it made him realize that to (some) humans, toys are very disposable/replacable, and that shook him to his core. He figured that Daisy no longer loved him, she loved whatever Lotso-Huggin'-Bear happened to be around. This is as much sense as I can make of it here. And this is coming from someone who had two stuffed Barneys (one had yellow toes and the other, older one didn't).

[thursdaymoose]

I saw Chuckles' line as implying their owner loved Lotso more. Whether or not Daisy knew the toy was replaced, Lotso was the only one of the three that someone deemed important enough to get again.

Chuckles and Baby could be lost without consequence, but Lotso was important.

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP at all, but that's how I saw it, too. Lotso saw himself devalued because he was replacable and needed replacing. Chuckles might've seen himself as devalued because he wasn't worth replacing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm really not bothered by the angsting of toys.

[kryptoncat]

You must be the Disney villain of this thread! Hi! Are you going to give us your evil speech on how much you hate toys, or will you just sing a musical number about how evil you are?

[(Anonymous)]

Oh. No. I don't hate toys. I'm indifferent toward them. Hence the lack of caring.

Maybe I'll think up a musical number about that, though.

[kathkin]

When I was a kid I had a favourite cat Beanie Baby and somehow I lost it. Since Beanie Babies are a common brand my mum figured we'd be able to get another one just the same, but when we went to the shop it turned out they'd discontinued that particular cat, but they had another Beanie cat in stock so we got that one to make me feel better.

Then on the way home we stopped off at the local library and wouldn't you know it that was where I left cat no 1. I always thought of the two of them as BFFs but since I saw Toy Story 3 I keep wondering if they'd have hated each other or something.

/cool story bro

[cloud_riven]

Oh. I took that line similar to your, but also as Chuckles meaning that the girl seemingly didn't care enough to replace anyone else. Agreeing with the above anon though, irl and outside of storytelling, there's no reason she couldn't have two Lotsos and her baby doll and clown back. Oh, needy greedy Lotso :(

[(Anonymous)]

I met a girl who has three identical stuffed animals - she calls them (Name), Backup (Name), and Other Backup (Name). They share a personality. I think she got the extras in case she loses the first one, or maybe she lost and then found it, but now she plays with all of them at once.

So this situation, with Toy Story logic - are the three ridiculously codependent to the point where they feel like they 'share a brain' but are still separate entities? Or, because toys share their origins + stories to some extent (Buzz Lightyears all know they're Buzz Lightyear) did they recognize that they're essentially the same thing and they're sharing a consciousness?

...I' overthinking this but now I want Lotso and Replacement Lotso to meet and RL to talk L out of his hatred and weirdness. If I were a writer I might try this, but I'm not.

[(Anonymous)]

I love EVERYTHING about this comment. EVERYTHING.

So this situation, with Toy Story logic - are the three ridiculously codependent to the point where they feel like they 'share a brain' but are still separate entities? Or, because toys share their origins + stories to some extent (Buzz Lightyears all know they're Buzz Lightyear) did they recognize that they're essentially the same thing and they're sharing a consciousness?

The first situation sounds like they're the LGMs (Little Green Men) from the Claw machine. Since they share a personality, it could be like that, unless that's considered background, in which case the second theory is more like. I have no idea, really. Just thinking about this makes me squee because it's so darn amusing.

I want to know if, in the Toy Story universe, there are any other toys like Buzz Lightyear, who genuinely believe their fabricated backstory until something jolts them out of it? This would probably be more common for action figures than, say, stuffed animals or generic stuff like dinosaurs or dragons, but I can't shake the feeling that Buzz isn't the first or only deluded toy like that in that 'verse.

Oh, God, I want that fic. But I just finished writing an Avengers/Toy Story fusion 'verse and need to distance myself from all that for a while.

[kryptoncat]

I want to know the same thing, only for the Wreck-It-Ralph universe. Will those cy-bugs ever become sentient? How long does it take video game characters to find personalities outside of their codes?

I love thinking about stuff like this. Come here, Disney and Pixar, let me hug you!

[(Anonymous)]

Let us know when you're going to play with this verse? I'd love updates.

[netbug009]

Yeeeeah I hear ya. I mean, it doesn't justify Lotso, but saying to somebody who feels that way "No, she only replaced YOU" so blunt probably didn't help matters.