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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-02 03:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2161 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-02 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
...Yeah, no. As a lesbian, I'm sick and tired of straight people telling me that there's nothing homophobic with using the word "gay" in a derogatory sense because they don't actually have anything against homosexuals. It's still homophobic in practice. After the word "gay" was appropriated by the LGBTQ community, young people began using "gay" in a negative and derogatory sense as something that was "weird" and "bad" because, to them, being gay was "weird" and "bad."

Continued usage of the word in this sense is extremely harmful to gay rights because it attaches a negative stigma to the word "gay." And it's narrow-minded to say it's just about ignorance. People know gay means homosexual. There are a plethora of other less problematic words you can use when you want to insult someone or something. If you're no longer a young teenager, then, yes, you should know better, and I no longer chalk it up to ignorance. It is homophobia in by book.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that as long as homosexual people continue to use "gay" that way, and there are many who do, heterosexual people won't think twice about doing it. That disconnect will always be there for them until they're forced somehow to make that connection.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-03 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
and then, like some other words, they'll just go "eh, you say it, Double standard!" and keep going.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-12-03 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Please note I didn't really defend her. I just said she might be stupid rather than hateful.

A lot of people are really, really, really stupid, and getting overly outraged at the acts of the merely stupid dilutes attention from the people actually fucking shit up.

If I stopped to yell at every stupid person I would literally never accomplish a damn thing.

I have a hard time working up any kind of anger about this in the context of people who would actually like to kill me or brainwash me or my friends.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
This.

Because I know growing up there was a time when using 'gay' as a replacement for 'stupid' hit my school hard as the cool thing to say. And, in retrospect, we were all being terribly horribly rude. But, we were also stupid little pre-teens trapped in our own fishbowl. We wised up and grew the fuck out of it.

It's not an excuse. But it seems extreme to scream homophobe because of one old quote.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
She's not just some random stupid person. She someone who knows she's in the public eye and her words reach a lot of people.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hi there, I'm also a lesbian and not offended by the usage of it *shrugs*. Maybe because it's one of those things that came about when I was young- everybody in primary school started using it as a substitute for stupid or lame and I think it's just stuck. I think for me the word has lost all meaning in regards to something offensive. If somebody starts throwing around faggot or dyke though, I will be offended.

Waiting for everybody to tell me how I feel and dogpiling me for my "self-hating" issues :/

(Anonymous) 2012-12-03 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want to tell you how you feel, but do you think that's because "gay" is more commonly associated with, well, homosexual guys instead of lesbians? It makes me wonder how gay guys feel about the word being thrown around like that.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2012-12-03 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a gay woman and I don't like it, and I've met gay men who feel the way I do, and gay men who agree with the anon you're replying to. So I think it's pretty mixed.