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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-02 03:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2161 ]


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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2012-12-05 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
They're not the center of mine either, despite being important to me. But you want to assume everyone lives in a vacuum? That's very optimistic of you. Not buying it.

As if an annoying group is the reason people like Rush Limbaugh, iirc, even coined that term. They discredit because they disagree with these ideas. They pretend you're censoring them, and pull out whatever misconception they want to apparently prove their points. As far as I'm reading so far, you seem to be getting at sjws doing more harm than the bigots that fuel that fire.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-05 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying every person who uses bigoted language casually is an ally in disguise. I'm just saying that what allies there are among those people, we lose every time we immediately call them a bigot instead of telling them your language is bigoted and harmful.

Again, most of us within these minorities probably grew up using some variation of bigoted language before we learned better, and most of us probably grew up with a few stereotypes before we learned better. Some people learn this stuff later than others. When they do learn this stuff, I'd rather it be someone reasonable who will at least take a moment to stop and say, "I know you think it's just a word, but using it is harmful. Not hurtful - harmful. Here's why, and please try not to use it again," instead of immediately shouting "OMG you fucking racist/sexist/homophobe/whatever". I don't think every person I stop and talk to will listen, I don't even think most will - but the few that will listen are above and beyond a good reason to take a second before I get my rage on.

Talking gets us all a lot more friends than yelling.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-05 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
There's always a relevant xkcd <3