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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-07 05:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #2166 ]


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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-08 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
It defintely did mine.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-08 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Not mine. Why would you pursue a civil case when the statue of limitations has not expired for a criminal case?

None of us no the truth, but this one is pretty goddamn shaky and there is not one shred of concrete proof yet.

da

(Anonymous) 2012-12-08 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
This. It reeks of money-grubbing to me. :\

If you were really traumatized and all that, wouldn't you want him put away so that he couldn't do it to anyone else?
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Re: OP

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-08 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the whole story, but from what I've heard he's mostly being accused of having sex with teens who were on the boderline in terms of age of consent? Or is he being charged with raping much younger children?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-08 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
no, you're right. he apparently hooked up with some sixteen year olds he met on a gay chat phone line
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Here you go

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-08 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
okay, so there's three accusers.

The first one I'm going to go ahead and say is the shakiest of the lot. Kevin says they had a relationship but that it was one established when all parties were of legal age.

The guy went to sesame street first. Not the police. not the press. Sesame street. Then he went civil. Also, turns out he's got a criminal background that does rather put anything

Then he recanted, some say as part of a settlement. They he re-recanted, but talked about how he was still getting a settlement... apparently his lawyer stopped talking to him at this point.

The next guy has a similar story to the first, though at least hasn't shown a complete lack of integrity in the same way. He says they met up when he was 16, and didn't have sex till he was legal, but that other adult things happened before that. He's suing for 5 million but says he'll drop it if Kevin "admits what happened".

The third guy is just some initials. But he's also in the lawsuit and writing a book.

True or untrue, there's a definite focus on money here. And the guy's had to leave his job and basically has had his career ended.

I'd have a lot more doubt if any of these three men had filed criminal charges, but as it stands I am not about to condemn him just yet.

Re: Here you go

(Anonymous) 2012-12-08 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
What state did everything take place in? I tried looking it up but am not finding anything that gives me an answer about what the age of consent was where it took place and if that age restricts consenting under-18s to having sex with people below a certain age.
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Re: Here you go

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2012-12-08 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, sounds like a grey area thing.

I can see how some people might say it's drastically inappropriate and technically illegal, but seems hardly worth ending the guy's career over. Below age of consent =/= victimized child. :/
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Re: OP

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-12-08 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
You've got it right, and the 'pedophilia' and 'child abuse' stuff coming up in this thread is driving me absolutely nuts.

These men weren't children when Clash had sex with them, even if they were below the AoC. Statutory rape is not the same as child molestation (and in fact, is a completely different crime in many jurisdictions).

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-08 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
No judgment, but it's statute, not statue.

I only mention it because this one seems to pop up everywhere lately, and my mind goes into weird tangents like, "I wonder if Venus de Milo would be considered a statue of limitations because she has no arms so she wouldn't be able to pick up a cup of tea, which seems like a decided limitation...."

And then I forget what I'm doing.