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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-11 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2170 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2170 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Nikita (CW)]


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03.
[The Pirates! Band of Misfits]


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04.
[Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell]


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05.
[Star Wars Expanded Universe]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer / Angel the Series]


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07.
[Avengers/MCU, Steve Rogers and Tony Stark]


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08.
[Go On]


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09.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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10.
[Sailor Moon]


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[Persona 4]


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12.
[Kili/Tauriel, The Hobbit]


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13.
[How to Destroy Angels/Mariqueen Maandig]


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14.
[Glee]


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15.
[Les Revenants]


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16.
[The Walking Dead]


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17.
[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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18.
[Gyakuten Saiban/Ace Attorney]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 060 secrets from Secret Submission Post #310.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Liv Tyler didn't demand screen time. She was one of the people who spoke out against Arwen at Helm's Deep.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Our understand is different, then? idk, I heard that she essentially told Peter Jackson that if she didn't get more screentime, she wasn't going to be in the movies at all. I don't know if that had anything to do with Helm's Deep (or if someone - PJ? - said "fine, you want more screentime, let's get ridiculous" or something), but I did hear that she'd threatened that.

I could be wrong, I just know it was something that I heard from several sources a few years ago.

I hated Arwen's enhanced role throughout LotR. Ugh. :\

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
This what I heard what happened; Philipa Boyens, one of the screen writers, was in charge of Arwen's stuff. She really felt that the movies needed a -strong female character- and she changed Arwen to do the flight of the ford thing. She stated openly that she didn't like book!Arwen because she doesn't like passive female characters and that she prefers Eowyn. Unsurprisingly,s he was also responsible for breaking up Arwen and Aragorn and pulling the will-they-won't-they love triangle with Eowyn.
Anyways, Fellowship came out and Liv got tons and tons of hate thrown at her from fans. In response to this, she spoke up and asked if they could tone down the battle!Arwen stuff and use material from the Appendices (and thus we get stuff like the scene of Arwen's future; which is from the book and I thought was very well done).
If anyone's to blame, for the bad subplot, it's the writers, IMO.