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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-11 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2170 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2170 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Nikita (CW)]


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03.
[The Pirates! Band of Misfits]


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04.
[Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell]


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05.
[Star Wars Expanded Universe]


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[Buffy the Vampire Slayer / Angel the Series]


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07.
[Avengers/MCU, Steve Rogers and Tony Stark]


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08.
[Go On]


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09.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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10.
[Sailor Moon]


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[Persona 4]


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[Kili/Tauriel, The Hobbit]


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13.
[How to Destroy Angels/Mariqueen Maandig]


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14.
[Glee]


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15.
[Les Revenants]


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16.
[The Walking Dead]


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17.
[The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest]


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18.
[Gyakuten Saiban/Ace Attorney]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 060 secrets from Secret Submission Post #310.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
That is so sad but true. I find it more interesting too, which is why I am making all of this my headcanon now because it's so much better than what we got.

I think the only other thing I could complain about was that one moment when you have to use evidence you got in the future in the past.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-14 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yup, headcanon totally accepted. Still this urge to write this as fic...

... I honestly think my mind has chosen to block that out, because I don't even remember that.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-14 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Do iiiiiiiiiiittt.

Ahaha! Lucky you! It was in the last case. I couldn't remember what piece of evidence it was so I looked it up on TV Tropes.

They said, "In the last case of Apollo Justice, when you have the ability to look in both the past and the present to see the evidence that Phoenix has collected, Phoenix presents evidence that he can't possibly have at the time he presents it, and draws conclusions based on knowledge he will have in the future. For example, the picture of Trucy's mother that you get from Valant Grammarye? You use it to break Zak's Psyche lock SIX MONTHS EARILER! I should probably stress that you get the picture after Zak DIES! And then there's the whole thing with Vera. How does "seven years ago" Phoenix have any clue that the bottle on the desk could possibly be Vera's good luck charm? If it was in the present, I would be fine with it, but our Phoenix hasn't seen that bottle before in his life. Also, why does "seven years ago" Phoenix know to suggest Kristoph as Vera's secret client? He has no reason to suspect Kristoph at that time, not until the events seven years later, when he sees that bottle of nail polish in Kristoph's cell? It boggles the mind!"

So... yeah... That's a problem.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-14 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
But I don't wanna do it aloooone! I'd want someone to discuss with, because the first case would need to be pretty much completely redone considering the fact that lawyer!Phoenix would have no reason to be in the Borscht Bowl Club and everything...

Oh... Oh that's right. Oh god that's terrible.

The more you actually think about what went on in Apollo Justice, the more it seems like the writers... kinda didn't really care to put any effort into it.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-15 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
I would be willing to help but I don't know how consistent I will be considering I'm really busy right now. We can try but I can't guarantee I'll always be available. I'm sorry. D: But if you're okay with that...

Yup, it's pretty bad.

Eh, it's only the last case that really has problems. But really, I think it has to do with two things:

1) The head writer or whatever really didn't want to write anything with Phoenix anymore but was forced to.

2) The entire story was written as pro-jury propaganda because Japan at the time was switching from a non-jury system to a jury system. The people of Japan during that time were very wary about the new system's implementation. So the government was doing a whole PR thing to improve opinions. This helped.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-15 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm rather busy right now as well, so it wouldn't be an immediate project anyway. So I would be okay with that... XD

Well, true, but that's because the last case is tying the entire game's plot together.

1) I can understand that being annoying, but still... :/

2) Oh yeah, I see. Well, still wish it'd been better done than it was. Le sigh.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-15 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, even with the reasons for it they still sound like horrible excuses.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-15 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mean. Okay, so he doesn't want to write more about Phoenix. Tough shit, it's his job, not his hobby.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-15 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I sympathize with him that he was getting forced to do it and he loved his job so seeing it being used like a cash cow probably really hurt. On the other hand, there are so many ways he could have done it so this it wouldn't ruin the character and it would be a huge middle finger to his bosses. There are ways to please the fans and show up your boss at the same time.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-15 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. I totally agree. Giving the finger to the bosses is all well and good, but not when you, kind of, take it out on the fans as well.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-15 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah well, it's useless to think about it now. What's done is done.
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[personal profile] derpmaid 2012-12-15 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Eyup, it is what it is. Not even fanfiction can change that. ;)