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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-12 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2171 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2171 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 040 secrets from Secret Submission Post #310.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It took me way too long to work out what was going on here.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
same

the color-coded words helped, but not that much

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Could you explain for me?
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[personal profile] ypsilon42 2012-12-13 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Not ayrt, but here is my take on it:

The OP uploaded two fanfics on AO3. One is hugely popular, the other one not so much. The red parts are the OPs reaction to feedback on the popular one, the violett ones on the not-so-popular one.

In short: They mostly care about the feedback on the less popular fanfic, but don't want to admit that to their fans.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You know OP, I kind of disagree because I hoard each and every kudos and comment from the fics I write for a more popular fandom/pairing, but boy is it nice to get those spare hits/kudos/comments/bookmarks for my quiet little fic about the pairing that so few people write in that other fandom. Like, it's definitely a different kind of rush. I've got nearly 9000 hits on the one and only 500 on the other, but those 9000 freak me out a little while the 500 feel like family to me. They're all good people, though, and I love them.
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2012-12-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods in agreement* I appreciate all the kudos and hits and bookmarks too, but darned if I don't pause and squee quite a bit when I get the email and see that it's, say, on a Vagrant Story or Suikoden fic rather than Star Trek or Tiger & Bunny.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
i see a lot of whining but honestly when you have tons of comments it's kind of impossible to find something to say in return to all of them. sometimes when people say "this is neat" it's hard to find anything to start up a conversation with.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
well it makes sense

I can see why you want to keep this a secret (some people are way too entitled and might try to make you a persona-non-grata in their fandom) but it makes sense that you feel this way

I think I would too

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's how I feel about AO3 at times. I don't write in some really big fandoms much, but for one particular active mid-sized fandom, I do get suspicious about the hit/kudos/bookmark count moreso than the smaller fandoms I write in.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-12 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
"Eh people read anything about these characters" is so true in pretty much all fandoms. It amazes me how stuff that's total crap gets so many views/kudos.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-12-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
What's the secret, exactly? These are two fics you wrote...you react to feedback/kudos differently in one than the other...what distinguishes them? why is this a secret? am I missing something?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Glad I'm not the only one confused by this "secret".

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Looks like one is a big pairing for a popular fandom, the other is for something smaller, so every hit and comment feels more valuable.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Because I'm a slathering, craving wreck when it comes to getting feedback on Fic B, and feeling like that is pretty embarrassing. Fic A is mostly a comparison shot - it's not like I'm writing fic to get attention in general, I only crave response/validation for one thing in particular.
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still trying to figure out what's going on here. Do you think that you didn't do a very good job with the popular pairing fic, and therefore embarassed at its lackluster response (compared to other similar fics?) Or are you embarassed that you deigned to write for that popular pairing and generally look down on it's shippers? Or are you happy that you convinced people to read your rare pair, when normally you generally are "eh" about getting kudos? Or what?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
OP appreciates more feedback and hits on her fics for less popular fandoms than the ones for popular fandoms
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-13 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, you have to scale a bit. If you are writing something obscure, you can't expect to get as many hits as if you write something popular and mainstream. You just aren't going to get the traffic. But, you know, a comment is a comment and a fic is a fic, regardless of that.

OP

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
What bothers me most is that I'm very much not invested in the popular pairing fic, and way way in-deep overinvested in the much less popular fic. I certainly don't look down on shippers of Pairing A - I like the ship a lot and it was fun to write, but I don't want to write about it again, partly because I am so totally obsessed with Pairing B, so it's kinda awkward that people keep on asking me to write Pairing A.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think the hit counter on AO3 is an accurate representation of who's reading the fic, though, so those high numbers might be misleading.

I can click on every single fic for a certain pairing (or fandom) and that will ding the hit counter whether I actually read the fic or not.

I've started reading many a fic only to decide it was crap and back-button out of it. The hit counter leads the author to believe that I read that fic. It's a really flawed system that I wish people wouldn't rely on so much for their feedback.



(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, the hit counter is a pretty good representation, ime.

I recently (for reasons) put together a graph of hits vs kudos for a sample of fics in my fandom, and found that it correlated extremely strongly - it was basically a straight line. I'd expected it to be much fuzzier, tbh.

More hits = more people see it = more people like it. Not everybody, but somebody can't like it without seeing it.