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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-12 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2171 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2171 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah sorry but the mainstream take of Fifty Shades is that it is revolutionary and amazing. I know so many people that aren't even embarrassed to say they read it and liked it. The online/fandom disdain of it means absolutely nothing to the commercial profit it has made and therefore publishers will look for more of that crap.

The reason why fanfic is better is because it can get away with more touchy things, not having to censor itself to appeal to the mainstream house wife. I really doubt many housewives would eat up Snape spanking Hermione over the potions classroom desk or Kirk and Spock Pon Farring it up in the Command Deck.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
PON FARR! \o/

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
And I mean that in a "mainstream" published way like Fifty Shades, not the offshoot publisher with no publicity types.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
There are actually a lot of "housewives" (or soccer moms or whatever you prefer to call them) who read their fair share of erotica and fanfiction, so it's kind of dumb to generalize in that way. Trust me, there are some kinky ass housewives out there, and if you look back at the early days of fandom, they were a lot of the ones keeping things afloat.

I think it's more a case of people who are familiar with erotica (both in fandom and in mainstream publishing companies) versus people who aren't. Most of the people I know who thought 50 Shades was brilliant either read very little or no fanfic or published erotica, and those people were, consequently, not all housewives or stay at home mom's or whatever else you want to call them.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Um, yeaaaah I think that's why I said "mainstream housewives."
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I admit that I'm much more likely to look at fanfic erotica simply because the tropes are more likely to be up my ally. Though I disagree about the Male Teacher/Female student spanking being that odd a trope, I came across that fairly frequently even back in ye olden days. That's practically vanilla as a kink for mainstream porn.

Fandom has definitely surpassed mainstream erotica on male pregnancy and pseudo-bestiality fronts.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, that's true... Snape spanking Hermione in the classroom sounds like the set up of the vast majority of erotica that pops up on the kindle store. Lucius spanking Draco or something like that would have been a better example.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I just didn't want to use two m/m pairings, but I used Snape/Hermione because even people on here seem to find it really creepy. While Male Teacher/Female student is highly popular, I think the fact that he's a gross pasty non-bathing guy would be weird. (Though I never have read it so it's entirely possible Snape/Hermione fanfics completely write that fact out.)
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[personal profile] velvet_mace 2012-12-13 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on if you expect your audience to be women or dudes. Dudes generally don't care if the male protagonist looks like crap so long as the woman is pretty.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Fifty Shades has made so much goddamn money that every employee who has been at Random House for more than a year is getting a $5,000 bonus, apparently. There will definitely be more like that in the future.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
*cries*