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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-12 05:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2171 ]


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[personal profile] otakugal15 2012-12-13 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Holy crap are you me? I wrote that EXACT same sentiment. But some Shamy shipper was all "How is that abuse/manipulation/I hate you for hating Shamy!!"

Seriously, you can't see the double standard there? Really?

UGH.

And yeah....I think my bf is getting tired of me and my ranting about the show....it's put him off from watching it a little bit. >_> Didn't mean to do that, but....I can't stand what's happening, yet I watch in hopes that it'll get better....

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I can't stand what's happening, yet I watch in hopes that it'll get better.

There used to be a great website, Jump the Shark, where people discussed the point where shows "went bad." It got bought by TV Guide or somesuch, and is not so good anymore.

But I posited a question to a small group a while back, and I'm curious to open it to a wider group: Are there any shows that have come back from "shark zone" or once they're gone, are they gone for good? As a follow up, are there any sitcoms that have lasted beyond 5 years and remained strong/never jumped?

I feel like the answer is no - there's only so many stories to tell, and it starts to fall apart after a while. I'm particularly curious about other people's thoughts on the first -any SITCOM that got bad, but got better (I think some procedural dramas managed to do so, but I'm only talking sitcoms for now). Anyone?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Frasier was good from beginning to end.

Simpsons took an extremely long time to "get bad" and I don't agree with people who think it's all that bad now. Simpsons also got really good when most sitcoms are typically getting to the point when they run out of stories (think about how "Who shot Mr Burns?" was at the end of season 6 and how many good episodes followed that.)

In my opinion, Scrubs got better in it's final season. A lot of people hated that it had a last season and that most of the cast was gone, but things actually got better because the drama with the old characters was no longer an issue. JD and Elliot were actually likable again and I enjoy season 9 more then season 8 or even seasons 6&7.

But to answer the question more broadly: Yes, I do think it's possible for shows to come back after a decline in quality. All it takes is decent writers who care about the show.

Do I think this will happen with BBT? No. I do not think BBT was ever quality though, BBT had something appealing to it, but the writing is not that great and when you have only mediocre to sort of good writing in a sitcom it can really only last so long before it gets tiresome.
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[personal profile] akacat 2012-12-13 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
M*A*S*H never jumped the shark, even though it had its share of meh episodes. It lasted a good deal longer than five years.

I'm not sure, but it seems like Happy Days itself lasted more than five years before its literal, trope-naming, shark jump.

I'm sure there must be others.
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[personal profile] tyger66 2012-12-13 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
It's still unclear what the current story arc is leading to, so I may be jumping the gun a bit, but I'll say that the current Supernatural season is of significantly higher quality than the last two. Definitely comparable with the earlier seasons.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
This - sort of. Though, once they took her from being asexual, to trying to pressure him I lost all interest. I've been there, and had a [now ex] SO do that to me so it rubs me in all the wrong ways to see it being shown that way.