[ SECRET POST #2176 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2176 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Sorry for late, busy day.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Augh, that sucks. I really don't get all the worst father ever crap that keeps going around about John. I mean, yeah, he was far from perfect, but I don't know how anyone can deny that he loved his sons and did what he could to protect them (or at least what he thought was protecting them). Hell, the dude SOLD HIS SOUL to save Dean and helped them defeat Azazel after he climbed out of Hell. Those are not the actions of a man who doesn't love his kids. Probably doesn't help that the show was kind of heavy-handed on propping Bobby up by making John look bad for the last two seasons, either, though. I like Bobby and his relationship with the boys and all, but ugh. You don't have to make him look better by shitting on John. :/

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU. I thought I was the only person who was really pissed off by the show playing up Bobby as the good father figure and John as the bad father figure. Bobby was great, there was no need to shit all over John to make Bobby look better. The worst thing is that it ruined Bobby for me. And of course fandom was greedily eating up every mention of how HORRIBLE John was. Because it's not like that contradicts in any way the John we actually saw on the show.

[(Anonymous)]

You're definitely not alone! It didn't ruin Bobby for me (although bringing him back as a ghost in the clumsy way that they did kind of did, and I am totally okay with him being dead now :|), but it was endlessly frustrating. I think John would have been more than willing to admit that he did screw up some things when it came to his kids, but he wasn't an evil monster or the worst parent ever. Hell, one of the major themes of the show is that EVERYONE screws up majorly at some point, but that doesn't make them irredeemable.

And I just have to say, the scene with John talking to Sam just before he dies, and then the one with Sam telling young!John how much he loved his dad break my heart every time I watch them. Every. Single. Time.