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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-17 07:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2176 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2176 ⌋

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Notes:

Sorry for late, busy day.

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Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Erm... except the shooter in this case is already dead, so he's kind of beyond help. In most cases like this, the people have already committed a violent crime too, and while I think there can still be efforts made to help them with any mental health issues, that's not going to make the people they've killed or injured better. I agree that there should be efforts to help people before they reach that point, but all talking about the shooters in these types of situations does is give them the notoriety and inspire copy-cat crimes. Or rather, talking about them in a way that makes their name, identity and image known.

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
I think demonizing these people far more harmful to society. The more we do it, the more ignorant we will be and the less likely we will be able to prevent future murders.

But I appreciate your thoughts on the matter, thank you for sharing them.

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 10:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's necessary to demonize them, though? I'm not actually sure where you're getting that from. Improving mental health care and reaching out to people before they do these types of things would benefit everyone, and simply not making people who commit these kind of crimes into pseudo-celebrities isn't demonizing them. The majority of media reporting tends to focus on how "screwed up" a person was, anyway, so if anything a lot of the media coverage is what often makes them seem less human. It also demonstrates to other people who might be considering that type of thing that they can get their fifteen minutes of fame by copying them, and that is a really, really terrible message to send.

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
SA: Wouldn't you say there have already been a ton of copy-cat shootings this year? The shooters are seeing how spectacularly successful these tactics are and are going ahead and killing more. The debate on gun-control will rage on, I myself am unsure about that particular issue. Attacking the matter at it's source might be a better preventative measure that will satisfy people on both sides of the issue.

Re: Non-fandom confessions/unpopular opinions!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-18 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
I think the best solution is a mixture of gun control and working on improving mental health care to prevent people from falling through the cracks and reaching the point that they think doing something like that is a viable option. If we were as focused on helping people before they do shit like this as we are on going on and on about their motives and home life afterwards, we'd see this type of thing happening a lot less often. (And improving mental health care would also be beneficial to the overwhelming majority of people with mental illnesses who are not violent, and often end up on the receiving end of violence and prejudice because of their illness.)

And we have had a lot of copy-cat shootings this year, as always happens every time something like this happens and gets a lot of coverage in the press. A lot of the reason that keeps happening is because people who are already unstable and in a bad place see all the attention and coverage that people who do this type of thing get on the news, and then start to consider that option for themselves. That's not to say that there's never been any mass killings if the media stopped focusing their attention on the perpetrators and making them into pseudo-celebrities, but it would definitely cut down on some of them. So, honestly, I think it would be helpful if the media stopped focusing so much attention on the shooters in these situations, didn't release their names or identities or show their pictures and didn't basically shut down all other news stories to have 24-hour coverage. It's a long shot given the sensationalism that most major media outlets thrive upon, but I think that would be one step in the right direction, at least.