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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-18 06:35 pm

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Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-12-19 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Whilst it's not an exact analogy.

How about the holocaust? Would you say by definition everyone involved in the camps was mentally ill, or caused to be afterwards - or rather that even the mentally healthy can commit monstrous acts?

Stretching the meaning of mental health to encompass every act we deem completely monstrous, does not seem useful.

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
You make a very good point.

I would say that mass hysteria and brainwashing does not make for a healthy mind either, and that temporary mental illness exists too. Those that commit monstrous acts have thrown away basic human sanity at least for a while. Not that that should be an excuse for anything.

Well now my brain is going every which way.

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I think that the variety of evil carried out in the Holocaust was so completely different in nature - the planned, organized, long-term, pervasive, massive in scale, versus the immediate and unplanned nature of the Sandy Hook killings - that it's not a good analogy. Sane, though incredibly thoughtless and immoral, people could be involved in the Holocaust because the nature of the Holocaust made it possible for them to be misled into thinking it was right, or at least not thinking it was wrong; I cannot see any possible way for someone to say that it was someone with a sane mind who committed the Sandy Hook killings.

I mean, I do agree that it's not helpful to resolve "evil" to "mentally ill" in general, but in this case and in pretty much all cases of workplace / school massacre I think that something which could be addressed by the mental health system is involved.

Re: Mass shootings and The Mentally Ill

(Anonymous) 2012-12-20 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It also sounds like people don't want to admit that evil people exist. People who choose to commit evil deeds without a truly uncontrollable rage/voices in their heads driving them into it. I mean, considering the amount of rapes that take place each year, I don't think that many mentally ill people exist. Just people who are entitled, horribly sexist and fully conscious of what they're doing.

It's comforting to think that every school shooter and serial killer is mentally ill. Something that can be cured, or recognized by the medical industry and then locked away. It makes people capable of trusting their neighbors and family members and co-workers, even against evidence, because "s/he's just not that kind of person/crazy".