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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-18 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2177 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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Re: Trigger warnings for lots of things

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Nah, it's okay, I get you.

The problem here is that the fandom is huuuge, so the fans that go too far are still in the hundreds-thousands, even if they're the vocal minority.

RE: the episode: The thing is that they don't translate the lessons they learn from the show to their actual real lives.

They don't self-regulate, and even some of the nicer fans turn a blind eye to bad behavior in the name of tolerance. (Some communities do put their foot down, thankfully, but not all.)

Yeah, I was talking about the things that can be changed and should be reprimanded in order to give them the discipline they need as motivation to change.

I too love the show, and was excited when Bronies first popped up, but it seems that many of the sane fans have learned to keep the distance and not to mingle too much with them, so now it's a vicious cycle of a fringe part of it being terrible and in turn attracting terrible people because of the lack of self-regulation, while the fans that are pretty okay keep their distance and don't really stand out.

So, when someone does something terrible, it's to them and similar fans who the rest of the world turn to look, and thanks to that they judge the rest of the fandom all under the same measure. Weakest link of the chain, and all that jazz.
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Re: Trigger warnings for lots of things

[personal profile] inkmage 2012-12-19 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely hear you on the vocal minority there. And part of the problem is that if you hear about, say, some James Bond fan who's made his/her car look like James Bond's and this and that and the other thing, then everyone goes, "Oh, wow, that's so cool, you're such an awesome and geeky guy!" But if some MLP fan, male or female, does something abnormal like that, the refrain becomes, "Oh, wow, that's so lame, you're such a lazy bum, stop being so girly etc etc etc."

/is bitter

But the point is that it's seen very different because of its actual demographic, and so to a lot of mainstream media it becomes, "Oh you're cool despite the fact that you're into this," rather than, "Oh you're cool and you're into this." The weakest link becomes weaker, if that makes any sense, which it very well might not.

RE: applying lessons: yeeeeah, I get what you mean. Like, it's all very well and good to say, "Don't give in to peer pressure, kids!" and then meekly agree to whatever unscrupulous thing your boss tells you. (Hopefully not that anyone's boss would, but as an example.)

I try to, honestly. I didn't have very many friends when I was younger and I've never been great at picking up social cues, so having all this actually explicitly told to me is the best thing ever. Especially whatever lessons Twilight learns, since I resemble her to the point when it really isn't funny.

Re: Trigger warnings for lots of things

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Same here on the last paragraph. (Only, Twilight has way more social grace than I ever had.) Actually having things like that spelled out has given me a new perspective on many situations that I never thought of.

RE: everything else, I agree with you!