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⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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I still have absolutely no idea how you got from "gun control" to "homophobic theocrats in Africa." I mean, I genuinely have no clue how the discussion went there or why you're continuing to talk about it. I have no idea how this logic has formed in your head and you're not doing a good job of explaining it.

...I think you might want to look at the history of twentieth century wars.

For someone that just accused me of misreading, you had a serious misreading of what I said.

You said that you can't fight automatic weapons with automatic weapons. Syria would like to have a word with you. Of course bullets kill people. I'm not trying to claim that a gun is some kind of magical shield that gives you +3 resistance against metal.

Okay. I'll break this down.

The United States as an independent state was born out of an act of armed insurgency. Independence would have been impossible in the 1770s-early 1780s without this. We are far from the only country like this. Ireland's a decent modern example. It may be a better one.

One of the reasons--among many--the second amendment was put in the Constitution was to enable armed resistance to unjust authority.

Disarming the American public would eliminate the possibility of resisting armed authority. Armed authority isn't always good. Sometimes armed authorities become oppressive toward racial, ethnic, religious or sexual minorities. I'm an academic; oppressive regimes tend to disappear people like me. It'd be nice if we could resist that.

The theocrats I mentioned are American politicians and other powerful people who openly support oppressive laws against LGBT people in Africa, to the extent that they bankroll campaigns to oppress gay people. If they got into power in the US I doubt they'd start being nice to American LGBTs. That's one possible scenario.

Unfortunately a lot of pro-gun rights people on the internet are all MUH GUNS and I WILL END ALL CRIME WITH THIS UZI. I'm talking about bigger historical and cultural phenomena. If we ban guns now something really, really shitty might happen in 2050.

So should every country start collecting automatic weapons? Assault rifles? Uzis? Rocket launchers? Just in case their government up and turns oppressive one day? Christ.

That's a very simplistic reading of what I just wrote, yes.

Look. I would love a world in which there are no automatic weapons. That is utopia. But in my country an automatic weapons ban isn't really an automatic weapons ban. It merely attempts to keep civilians from having them while local police departments keep buying more and more military equipment and our military gets more and more good at surveillance. I'm not a conspiracy theorist--I think the government is full of people who legitimately mean well--but this is a bad idea for the United States in context of American culture right now.

I'm uncomfortable in a still rather bigoted country that's working hard to give statistically more bigoted groups a monopoly on violence.

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