[ SECRET POST #2179 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2179 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I'm sorry, OP, but you cried for a week over this? Write an alternate ending/alternate universe where they can be together forever, then maybe try to work out why you're so emotionally involved in this character.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's funny because there actually IS an alternate universe where they're together forever!

[silverr]

welllll ...

(I almost never read fanfic, but I do remember reading some superb stories thaqt really dug at the issue of both Rose and 10v2 grappling with 10v2 being a "copy" ...)

[intrigueing]

I never really got why that was supposed to be a problem though. Why is Ten 2.0 more of a "copy" than Eleven is of Ten or Ten is of Nine or etc back to One?

I'd think the Donna-ness that Ten 2.0 absorbed, and the whole fitting time lord thoughts and 900+ years of memory into a human brain, and having totally alien instincts and impulses in a mortal human body, would present more of an issue.

(this is coming from some who thought that entire plot point was seriously wtf, just as a disclaimer)

[silverr]

Good points, all. Did I mention I get my Willing Suspension of Disbelief at Costco, in 50-gallon drums? :p

(And I can't articulate why the copyness makes sense to me: I suppose I'm afraid to poke at it too much. Certainly, as you point out, the "essence" of the Doctor isn't tied to any particular corporeal body.)

[intrigueing]

Ahhhh...Willing Suspension of Disbelief! My brand of choice works wonders when it comes to external logic (possibly because I've built up a robust immunity through exposure to loads of fantasy since I was born), but I've always had problems finding a type that consistently works for me when it comes to internal logic. ;)

[silverr]

I'm not sure I follow - can you explain how you define "internal logic" and "external logic"?

[intrigueing]

Suspension of disbelief with regards to external logic: Your ability to believe that an alien doohickey can make televisions suck people's faces off, because the out-of-universe writer tells you it's an alien doohickey that can make televisions suck people's faces off.

Suspension of disbelief wrt internal logic: Your ability to believe that said alien doohickey can conveniently work differently all of a sudden despite no change in actual relevant in-universe variables, because the in-universe characters say so.

[silverr]

Ah, I see, I think. If I understand you, by internal logic you mean whether something adheres to or breaks its own previously-established rules.

[intrigueing]

Yeah, sorry for being confusing ;)

[silverr]

You weren't confusing: I just wanted to understand your nomenclature.

[fadeinthewash]

TV Tropes has a page distinguishing the two views as Watsonian vs. Doylist.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. Yay, happy endings all 'round!

And the anon *seriously* needs to get a grip.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this kinda threw me too. Get a grip, OP. Sobbing every lunchbreak? Crying more over that than your uncle's death?

Your life, your choices.

[(Anonymous)]

Emotions aren't always a matter of choice. You don't select an allotment of tears that you judge appropriate for every unhappy situation. Sometimes unlikely things hit you unexpectedly hard, for reasons that often don't have to do with just the Sad Thing itself. Don't try to guilt somebody over not feeling as much as they "should" have, in your mind.