[ SECRET POST #2181 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2181 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This. I get so sick of seeing people bitchbitchbitch about how we need more diverse representation and then rip to shreds almost every character who isn't straight/white/male/insert-minority-status-here for not being ~done right~, and then we get the whole "WHITE MEN CANT WRITE MINORITY CHARACTERS WELL BUT SAYING THAT MINORITIES SHOULD TRY WRITING SOME IS RACIST/SEXIST/WHATEVER -IST WE FEEL LIKE SAYING TODAY" schtick. Feh.

[(Anonymous)]

it's annoying as shit because you better believe no one is going "you're not doing straight male right". Nope, nowhere is that a thing. Because straight white males are allowed the privilege of being considered as individual characters, not representative of their demographic. For people so obsessed equality you'd think they'd allow the same for minorities.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem is that the kind of people who go off like this are so damn invested in "us vs. them" mentality that they can't see people as individuals, only as members of whatever collective demographic they've assigned them.

[(Anonymous)]

That's my big issue with all of this. Once again individuality is not the point (the 'you disagree? then your white!), it's perpetuating a stereotype that we were all suppose to be working to fight against.

[(Anonymous)]

+ INFINITY

[(Anonymous)]

this is beautiful.+10000000000

[(Anonymous)]

Receipts? Because the only time I see people bitch about a minority character is when said character is a blatant stereotype or box of cliches. Don't expect a pat on the back for making some more Magical Negroes or Sassy Black Best Friends.

Basically, you can't get it wrong if you treat POC and women like actual people instead of like all the cliches you've ever seen. If you can't write people, then you shouldn't be writing at all.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with a lot of your comment, almost all of it. Actually, no, I agree with everything you're saying, especially the "write them like actual people instead of like all the cliches".

The only caveat I have to add is that I thought the whole racewank thing blew up when a white author had said the key to writing minority characters was that they're all just people, write them as people. And then there was an explosion of 'no no no, they're not the same as you, different experiences, privilege' etc. All of those things are true in pieces, but when it all came down like an avalanche, it did seem to be a catch-22 of "you can't write POC without understanding [blank]" and "you can't even understand [blank] because you're not."

That's my recollection, anyway, as a non-writing bystander who liked reading metafandom.

And, like I said, I really do agree with what you've said here, to simply write people as people.

[(Anonymous)]

The only caveat I have to add is that I thought the whole racewank thing blew up when a white author had said the key to writing minority characters was that they're all just people, write them as people. And then there was an explosion of 'no no no, they're not the same as you, different experiences, privilege' etc. All of those things are true in pieces, but when it all came down like an avalanche, it did seem to be a catch-22 of "you can't write POC without understanding [blank]" and "you can't even understand [blank] because you're not."

whew.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who saw that but I was too chickenshit to even say anything because...wow...talk about avalanche of shit on my head? Yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

clearly you hang out in much smarter areas of fandom than I do then, because I've seen people go crazy over really stupid things.