[ SECRET POST #2181 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2181 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

BUT BUT BUT CUTE FLUFFY KIDS MOVIES ARE TOTALLY SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT SOCIAL COMMENTARY. HDU SAY THAT WRITING A GOOD STORY SHOULD COME AHEAD OF CHECKING OFF ALL THE LITTLE BOXES. Although the story of Frozen seems like a giant and complete waste of Snow Queen imo. They shouldn't have tried to play it like it was a version of the original fairy tale, because it isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

But a lot of kids movies manage to be cute and fluffy and social commentary. Look at the majority of Pixar films. It's not like you have to go in with your SJ guns blazing and bash people over the head with IMPORTANT ISSUES, but pretending that movies for kids are meant to be nothing but dumb fluff is kind of insulting. In fact, most of the kids movies out there that are seriously terrible take that kind of "can't talk about anything too ~deep~ because this movie is just for kids" mindset. Kids aren't stupid, and they aren't the only ones who watch children's movies.

[(Anonymous)]

I was being OTT on purpose, but ia that you can have a somewhat deep message in a kid's movie and that makes it better. What doesn't make it better is putting issues in there just to have them in there, to check off the boxes of Required Diversity Level 5 or whatever. It's usually pretty obvious whether diverse elements are in a story because the creator felt that they belonged there naturally, or if they're in there because the author felt that they needed to Send A Message Of Great Importance. The former's awesome, the latter massively sucks. The problem is that a lot of people seem to feel that the latter is great as long as it's the issue they want to promote themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that it's best when things are organic, but my major problem wiuth that line of reasoning is that a lot of people seem to assume that people are always doing the latter anytime that they include anything remotely controversial or that could be viewed as a social issue in a children's film. Anything that doesn't fit the status quo is somehow people pushing their social agenda and messing with a good thing just to get their message across. So, I can agree with you in theory, but not in practice.

I think the real issue is more with how high-handed they get in how they portray the situation in the film, not with their reasoning for switching things up. If they get overly preachy and in your face and ridiculous in the film, that can definitely ruin things and I'd rather steer clear of that. But the fact remains that right now, if someone wants to make a movie with two princesses (or princes) instead of a prince and a princess people are naturally going to assume that it's because they want to Send a Message and they're never going to assume it's just organic, because so many people are stuck in the mindset that if anyone's going to fall in love in a fairy tale, it should be a boy and a girl and that's that. That attitude's not going to change until people actually take a risk and start making films that involve two princesses (or two princes) and it becomes less of an oddity and more of an accepted thing.

[oroburos69]

I was okay with it, but them I realized that Disney doing this version now means that we're probably never going to get a better version later (unless Dinsey starts rebooting stuff, which is actually pretty plausible).

[(Anonymous)]

I think that the AYRT's comment is more overbearing on the "social commentary" than a plainly-presented romance between two girls would be.