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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-22 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2181 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2181 ⌋

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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-12-23 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is that (white, straight) men are treated as the default, with whom anyone should naturally be able to identify. Female characters are generally written off as, "Oh, audience members who aren't women won't be able to identify with them/people who don't like "girly things" or aren't into "women's issues" won't be able to identify with them."

Sure, in theory any character should be identifiable and sympathetic and it shouldn't matter what gender (or race or anything else) they are. But that's simply not how media works right now. There are actual, real life quotes from studio execs who say they won't produce female-led films because there's "no audience" for them. And these attitudes also leech into fandom -- the more poorly-written female characters there are, the more you get young girls saying, "I just like male characters better, what's wrong with that?"

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
the more poorly-written female characters there are, the more you get young girls saying, "I just like male characters better, what's wrong with that?"

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Exactly. It's like, can't you bother to think for three seconds why you find male characters so much better? If female characters are so icky to you by default, why not go ahead and write them into something that you DO like? Seriously. Not hard.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
this

it bothers me that there are actually people in the audience buying into the skeevy shit the sexist execs and writers and directors and producers believe

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2012-12-23 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
You know, you make a really good point.

I used to be all about the female characters when I was a kid because they were girls; (and for a long time, I idolized Lara Croft of the 'Tomb Raider' series), but as I've gotten older, I've been finding it harder to "relate" to female characters in modern media, and I never could figure out why. And that really upsets me sometimes.

On the flipside of the coin, a huge portion of characters I've created on my own for my ideas are all largely female and/or have a fairly balanced female-to-male ratio. Because I "relate" to my own characters and so on.

Kind of sad, now that I think about it. =(
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2012-12-23 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.