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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-22 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2181 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
We don't have empirical data on "souls." That's the issue on which the question of an afterlife hinges, and biological and psychological studies on what constitutes the physical consciousness haven't supplied a thorough answer for what constitutes the spiritual consciousness (or, if you're cynical/practical, what makes us want to believe so badly that we have a spiritual consciousness). That's currently a matter of philosophy.

You won't get far trying to argue your point. You almost surely aren't going to change anyone's mind here!
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2012-12-23 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Ah.

So yes, you're arguing a mind/body dichotomy.

Empirical science has given us as I mentioned a fairly solid idea, at the edges of what constitutes sentience. I'll admit, in many ways it is a black box - but absolutely everything we've found about it, points towards being a base system mired in the real world.

Nothing has at any point every reasonably pointed towards any other possibility.

We have a significant body of evidence supporting one side, and nothing supporting the other.

It's not a 'philosophical truth' as it were, but then again, very little is and by all standard measures of 'knowledge' we do know.

And I'm perfectly happy arguing my point to no effect, I'm a philosophy grad, that's basically what I did for three years :3

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't the AYRT, just so you know! Now I am, though.

Anyway, you can also think of it as a mind/body/"soul" trichotomy.