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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-22 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2181 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2181 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Good, that's a reasonable answer. Now, why would it be important to the people who cared about you?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Because humans are social animals who form strong bonds with one another, which is how we've been so far very successful as a species, at least in the relative short term?

I have no idea where you're going with this.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, good, that's also a reasonable answer.

Why would it be wrong for another person to kill you tomorrow? (Not saying that I want that to happen, God forbid!)

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh for fuck's sake.

Look, I know where this is going now, and it's just as bullshit a place as I feared it might be.

Yes, morals are created by humans as a sort of lie we tell ourselves to make sense of the world. They are not a part of the natural world and no one has ever tried to claim they are. They exist only in our heads, but they are real nonetheless etc etc.

Here's the thing though. The concept of a soul and life after death - they are not real in the natural world and the funny thing is they're not real in our heads either because when we die our mind stops functioning and we can no longer believe or rationalize anything to ourselves.

It's not the same thing at all and you damn well know it.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-23 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Our mind stops functioning and we can no longer believe or rationalize anything to ourselves.

Nitpicking: our brains stop functioning.

Anyway, you're a little off-track on where I was going (though you probably haven't stuck around for my answer!). If your personal death is unimportant (beyond the emotional impact it will have on the people who "care" about you, which is just an expression of the animal bonds they've formed), then your existence is exactly equal to that of an isolated oak tree. If you set aside the law and the morals our society has developed, someone gunning you down tomorrow (again, knock on wood) would be no "different" than someone chopping down an oak tree.

You freaked out enough when you thought I was bringing the concept of morals into this thread. I don't think you'd be too happy at having your sense of self-importance reduced to the same level as that of a non-sapient tree.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-24 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Uh... I don't get why you think this is news to me.

Yes, in the grand scheme of things I am no more important than anyone or anything else that is alive. And? What's your point?